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hickslawns

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It's here. My nephew and a good friend of mine have been tested. Awaiting results. Nephew was in Spain on study abroad project. My buddy is in the NE corner of the state. Not a good place to avoid it. We have "zero" cases in Allen County yet over 100 in quarantine (last I heard.) Sure hope we can find something to curb it. Hopefully the warmer weather benefits us.
 
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Yeah unfortunately it's doesn't appear to go away in warmer weather. It may slow it down but not really enough to matter.
 

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It's here. My nephew and a good friend of mine have been tested. Awaiting results. Nephew was in Spain on study abroad project. My buddy is in the NE corner of the state. Not a good place to avoid it. We have "zero" cases in Allen County yet over 100 in quarantine (last I heard.) Sure hope we can find something to curb it. Hopefully the warmer weather benefits us.
Is nw Ohio even testing yet? My family People in the medical field as of last week said nope. Probably have to be admitted 1st...
 

hickslawns

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Is nw Ohio even testing yet? My family People in the medical field as of last week said nope. Probably have to be admitted 1st...

Not that I know of. My nephew is in Columbus. My buddy tested in NE Ohio. In the Lima area it sounds as if they are being instructed to self quarantine unless they have respiratory distress. I don't know if they are testing or not to be honest. I've only heard of numerous "presumed positive" who are being treated for symptoms. The "100 people" in Lima area number was given to me by a local doctor.
 

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Not that I know of. My nephew is in Columbus. My buddy tested in NE Ohio. In the Lima area it sounds as if they are being instructed to self quarantine unless they have respiratory distress. I don't know if they are testing or not to be honest. I've only heard of numerous "presumed positive" who are being treated for symptoms. The "100 people" in Lima area number was given to me by a local doctor.

buddy who is in my town?
 

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Not that I know of. My nephew is in Columbus. My buddy tested in NE Ohio. In the Lima area it sounds as if they are being instructed to self quarantine unless they have respiratory distress. I don't know if they are testing or not to be honest. I've only heard of numerous "presumed positive" who are being treated for symptoms. The "100 people" in Lima area number was given to me by a local doctor.

I guarantee you that nobody who isn't displaying severe respiratory symptoms has gotten tested. If I was a betting man I would say you go to the doctor and they tell you its likely the flu or a cold so go home, but self-quarantine just to be safe. You walk back in three days later with respiratory distress and they first test you for a cold and flu. If those come back negative they may test you for covid depending on test availability and how bad you are. End result you have someone who has been on the lamb for weeks before they are identified as being positive.
 

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Is nw Ohio even testing yet? My family People in the medical field as of last week said nope. Probably have to be admitted 1st...
Yes, there have been tested individuals in Seneca county, no positive that I know of. There are are positives hospitalized in the Toledo area.
 

hickslawns

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I guarantee you that nobody who isn't displaying severe respiratory symptoms has gotten tested. If I was a betting man I would say you go to the doctor and they tell you its likely the flu or a cold so go home, but self-quarantine just to be safe. You walk back in three days later with respiratory distress and they first test you for a cold and flu. If those come back negative they may test you for covid depending on test availability and how bad you are. End result you have someone who has been on the lamb for weeks before they are identified as being positive.

I'd agree. I don't think this is Lima specific. Seems many areas are (at least were) going this route. As more tests come available that may change. I've heard the term "presumed positive" used quote a bit. So long as they remain quarantined and it is flu like symptoms. . . What changes with a test? Same treatment of symptoms.
 

Bowkills

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I guessing it's oh shit this person can't beat it on their own we better not in danger everyone in the hospital they need a test......
 

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Story just came through the local grapevine of a healthcare worker who has a 11 year old, 10-month old, and is pregnant. She left the 11 year old in the car for her 8 hour shift because she doesn't have child care. The only options she has are elderly grandparents and the 11 year old was shipped here last week from NY. Kid has a nasty cough and was around a family member of mine. We can't stop this with a lockdown. It's simply just a slowing of the inevitable.
 
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Bowkills

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Story just came through the local grapevine of a healthcare worker who has a 11 year old, 10-month old, and is pregnant. She left the 11 year old in the car for her 8 hour shift because she doesn't have child care. The only options she has are elderly grandparents and the 11 year old was shipped here last week from NY. Kid has a nasty cough and was around a family member of mine. We can't stop this with a lockdown. It's simply just a slowing of the inevitable.
Slow is all we can do.
 

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Slow is our friend. Find out more about the virus....treatments, vaccines. Also there is not enough supplies, medical equipment or front line caregivers, beds and ventilators to handle a mass sickness. If that happens people will die that shouldn’t if not slowed down to be manageable. IMO my life is worth more than the fucking economy.
 

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Slow is our friend. Find out more about the virus....treatments, vaccines. Also there is not enough supplies, medical equipment or front line caregivers, beds and ventilators to handle a mass sickness. If that happens people will die that shouldn’t if not slowed down to be manageable. IMO my life is worth more than the fucking economy.
I agree. But the economy is also people lives. It represents peoples life savings, their businesses, their children's financial stability and futures, their college funds, retirements, and could impact the next generation very heavily. It's a double-edged sword. The closure of everything as we know it is only supposed to be a temporary reprieve for the government and hospitals to prepare for what they should have been prepared for all along. It is not a longterm solution and is unsustainable. If we don't have some sort of solution within the next 3-4 weeks the damage will likely be felt for decades and even a generation.
 

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I'd agree. I don't think this is Lima specific. Seems many areas are (at least were) going this route. As more tests come available that may change. I've heard the term "presumed positive" used quote a bit. So long as they remain quarantined and it is flu-like symptoms. . . What changes with a test? The same treatment of symptoms.

Presumptive positive is a term used to describe someone who has tested positive by means other than an official CDC test. See instead of using the WHO test created in Germany and in use around the world, the CDC thought they would be smart and create their own test. Meanwhile, in Washington state the first epicenter in the US, they were only testing people with connections to overseas travel or close to someone who was positive, regardless of symptoms. Everyone who disnt meet those two requirements was told they didn't fit the criteria. This caused us to miss the critical early detection indicator that it was spreading in the community. Weeks later they created the test and started distributing it. They fucked it up and shipped out a faulty test. In a panic they allowed states to create and submit their own tests for approval. But they could only use them after they were approved. Another week wasted and the CDC finally allowed states and labs to create and use their own test prior to approval, providing they sent their test to the CDC within 14 days. One stipulation was they couldn't declare someone "positive", only "presumptive positive" until the CDC confirmed it. So ultimately they royally screwed it up and wasted valuable time.

Meanwhile, South Korea was aggressively testing hundreds of thousands of people, contact tracing, and quarantining areas of outbreak. Their results speak for themselves. Meanwhile, we are on the same path as Italy.

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