2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)
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Now a lot of junk anti-body tests out there as FDA relaxed validation tests from manufactures
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I don't think having to load dead bodies into rows of semi trailers is a fear or novelty based reaction but rather a necessity based on the number and rate of the dead. Morgues were full.
Ohiosam
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This 1st month of quarantine wasn’t so bad because the weather isn’t great, I don’t see how they’ll control people’s movements when the weather breaks.
7,708 deaths per day in 2017.
7,778 deaths per day in 2018.
232 coronavirus deaths per day so far this year. Double that for a shortened day count.
The reason mortuaries are full is due to the waiting periods for burial. Not the death rates. Again that waiting period is due to the reaction. Not nature.
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Those numbers include every possible way a person could die, to include the guy who shoved a gerbil up his ass, or the 104 year old grandma whose ticker finally gave out..
On March 29th there were 69 confirmed deaths in the US due to covid... Today, just 30 days later, there are 26,047. And that is not counting the people who died in a nursing home or at home.. That's 25,978 deaths in only 30 days.. And that is WITH a massive quarantine effort. If we want to compare that to influenza there were 34k deaths in the US from the flu in all of 2019. The time to compare body counts for mortality isn't after you have hundreds of thousands of people dead. We have to look at the situation with the data we know and make predictions of what it will be. From there you implement a mitigationg action to reduce that.. The risk is, if you did your job well and successfully mitigated the threat, people will point to that result to claim it was no big deal and an overreaction.
And these "Experts" from back in Febuary should be barred from their career for life.
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that is my point. Those are total deaths. Ok, so an extra 866 deaths per day across an entire country. 17 additional per state. And those are inflated numbers since the bullshit counting methods are in place. If they were allowing people to bury their dead they wouldn’t need the trucks. Those experts may prove to be right that you’re quoting from February. Just like the gentleman from Stanford is indicating. This is the problem with statistics. They’re manipulated from day one if someone has an agenda.
ÓOne tax provision in the $2.2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package will overwhelmingly benefit wealthy Americans, according to a nonpartisan congressional analysis.
The measure allows taxpayers to use losses from certain businesses to reduce taxes owed on nonbusiness income, such as profits from investments.
Whats the story on this Joe
The measure allows taxpayers to use losses from certain businesses to reduce taxes owed on nonbusiness income, such as profits from investments.
Whats the story on this Joe
The problem is that the major death tolls are in central locations, not spread out.
Like this:
Franklin county has 1,000+ confirmed cases
Take a look at the bordering counties numbers.
Franklin county has 1,000+ confirmed cases
Take a look at the bordering counties numbers.
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Dave... That's because Franklin County is known for its high turkey population...Therefore many infected hunters headed there scouting for the opener...
The Stark county of turkeys. I did see a lone beard dragger about an hour ago here in Franklin county.
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I suppose this goes right out the window now.
Source: https://www.varonis.com/blog/hipaa-compliance/
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'New order will give 911 dispatchers names and addresses of COVID-19 patients'
Ohio's Health Director Dr. Amy Acton announced that 911 dispatchers will be given the addresses and names of people who test positive for the coronavirus.
Tuesday, April 14th 2020, 9:40 PM EDT by Danielle Cotterman
Updated: Tuesday, April 14th 2020, 9:41 PM EDT
In a new order aimed at keeping first-responders safe, Ohio's Health Director Dr. Amy Acton announced that 911 dispatchers will be given the addresses and names of people who test positive for the coronavirus. The information will be kept confidential but will allow first-responders to be prepared when responding to homes.
"They normally think I go out, I take care of a patient, and then I go back home at the end of my shift and I'm done. Now in the back of their mind, these men and women now have the thought 'What if I get exposed?' explained President and CEO of Lane Life Trans Paramedic Ambulance, Joseph Lane.
The new order requires health departments to provide 911 centers with the names and addresses of positive COVID-19 patients.
For EMS workers, like those with Lane Life Trans Paramedic Ambulance, this gives them the heads up to fully equip themselves in personal protective equipment. It also gives them a heads-up to use an ambulance that is specifically designed for COVID-19 patients.
"They're lined in the back with almost a plastic liner in the back, so they're easily cleaned after," said Lane.
For police, being fully dressed in PPE for every call isn't a reality. And while dispatchers currently ask if anyone at the home has flu-like symptoms or COVID symptoms. Boardman's Police Chief Todd Werth said that information isn't always relayed by the caller.
"Unfortunately when people are calling 911 there in a traumatic situation they have a lot going on," explained Werth.
This order is an extra layer of protection for all first-responders.
In Trumbull County, the 911 Director Ernie Cook said placing an alert on addresses with positive cases is something they've already been doing and working with the health department to update the list on a daily basis.
"We were one of the first counties out there to do it, almost all counties have been doing it for a while," said Cook.
State leaders said the order will help provide consistency across the state.
Source: https://www.wfmj.com/clip/15047076/...hers-names-and-addresses-of-covid-19-patients
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"Most all county's' have been doing this for sometime" - Hmmm,,, sometime, huh? I suppose it's all in the sake of safety now, but for whom?
Why shouldn't everyone have that information if it's for the sake of safety?
Wouldn't/Aren't each public servant treating any/all strangers as if they were infected? Wouldn't that be considered a wise thing to do, or 'best practice', especially at the present time? That's what I would do if I was a public servant. That approach would make perfectly good sense to me.
Anyhow,,, I'm not on board with this new order.
An actual list with personal unique identifiers, such as specific health diagnoses and/or other forms of specific identification that will be roaming around within the state's systems for whomever deemed to be in the"need to know" basis, for the sake of safety.
I expect some here will be perfectly fine with it and consider the new order a good thing, which is fine.
I cared to share this information with anyone else that wasn't aware of the this new state order and what potential dangers may come along with it regarding our civil rights.
I've read/heard that some Ohioans have plans on protesting this very order at the state house.
Source: https://www.varonis.com/blog/hipaa-compliance/
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'New order will give 911 dispatchers names and addresses of COVID-19 patients'
Ohio's Health Director Dr. Amy Acton announced that 911 dispatchers will be given the addresses and names of people who test positive for the coronavirus.
Tuesday, April 14th 2020, 9:40 PM EDT by Danielle Cotterman
Updated: Tuesday, April 14th 2020, 9:41 PM EDT
In a new order aimed at keeping first-responders safe, Ohio's Health Director Dr. Amy Acton announced that 911 dispatchers will be given the addresses and names of people who test positive for the coronavirus. The information will be kept confidential but will allow first-responders to be prepared when responding to homes.
"They normally think I go out, I take care of a patient, and then I go back home at the end of my shift and I'm done. Now in the back of their mind, these men and women now have the thought 'What if I get exposed?' explained President and CEO of Lane Life Trans Paramedic Ambulance, Joseph Lane.
The new order requires health departments to provide 911 centers with the names and addresses of positive COVID-19 patients.
For EMS workers, like those with Lane Life Trans Paramedic Ambulance, this gives them the heads up to fully equip themselves in personal protective equipment. It also gives them a heads-up to use an ambulance that is specifically designed for COVID-19 patients.
"They're lined in the back with almost a plastic liner in the back, so they're easily cleaned after," said Lane.
For police, being fully dressed in PPE for every call isn't a reality. And while dispatchers currently ask if anyone at the home has flu-like symptoms or COVID symptoms. Boardman's Police Chief Todd Werth said that information isn't always relayed by the caller.
"Unfortunately when people are calling 911 there in a traumatic situation they have a lot going on," explained Werth.
This order is an extra layer of protection for all first-responders.
In Trumbull County, the 911 Director Ernie Cook said placing an alert on addresses with positive cases is something they've already been doing and working with the health department to update the list on a daily basis.
"We were one of the first counties out there to do it, almost all counties have been doing it for a while," said Cook.
State leaders said the order will help provide consistency across the state.
Source: https://www.wfmj.com/clip/15047076/...hers-names-and-addresses-of-covid-19-patients
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"Most all county's' have been doing this for sometime" - Hmmm,,, sometime, huh? I suppose it's all in the sake of safety now, but for whom?
Why shouldn't everyone have that information if it's for the sake of safety?
Wouldn't/Aren't each public servant treating any/all strangers as if they were infected? Wouldn't that be considered a wise thing to do, or 'best practice', especially at the present time? That's what I would do if I was a public servant. That approach would make perfectly good sense to me.
Anyhow,,, I'm not on board with this new order.
An actual list with personal unique identifiers, such as specific health diagnoses and/or other forms of specific identification that will be roaming around within the state's systems for whomever deemed to be in the"need to know" basis, for the sake of safety.
I expect some here will be perfectly fine with it and consider the new order a good thing, which is fine.
I cared to share this information with anyone else that wasn't aware of the this new state order and what potential dangers may come along with it regarding our civil rights.
I've read/heard that some Ohioans have plans on protesting this very order at the state house.
All in how you file your taxes. This sounds like the way it has already been. Own 4 businesses. Business 1 makes $10. Business 2 loses $5. Business 3/4 break even. You get a schedule C for each business. On your 1040 there is a line for profit or loss from business. In this case they total up to $5 profit. If you made $1 in investments, then you are paying tax on $6. The $5 in business profit plus $1 in investment gains.
In another scenario you make $10 in investments. You own a business that lost $5. The business loss reduces your personal total income. You are paying tax on $5 income now.
BUT, this is really simplified. Some investment taxes are short term or long term and taxed at different rates. It is complicated. Thus the reason there are accountants on payrolls making big money for the ultra wealthy. I don't doubt there are extra loopholes in this bull. . .I mean bill.
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866 per day and climbing. That's an average across the days since the start where numbers were initially small. And that is with a nationwide stay at home order and a massive closure of businesses like restaurants and bars with close contact spaces.
Even with those measures in place, we're seeing a doubling of fatality rates about every 6-8 days. Let's say 7 days for easy math and take that math out for just two months until June 15th. 2,407 deaths today, doubling every week for 8 weeks, becomes 38,512 deaths per day in mid-June. If we don't stop transmission that could be a very real reality.
The only agenda is the preservation of human life, and the world and its economy is taking a very heavy toll to do so.
Here is a chart of deaths in NYC by month going back even before Sept 11th.. This is all deaths no matter the cause... I wonder what that large spike for the Month ending April 4th is.. Even if they took every death, by every means, and added it to the "Bullshit counting method" for covid, it still wouldn't account for half of the current deaths.