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Bowhunters / Shoulder Shots

CJD3

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Need Proof That Bowhunters Should Avoid Shoulder Shots on Deer? Here It Is (msn.com)


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xbowguy

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Whats your take on this @xbowguy?
I will swear to it! Your odds are much better if you stay at least 4" behind the crease on the back side of the shoulder. Your shot also needs to be in the lower horizonal half of the deer.
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These two pics above show how the shoulder is longer than many people realize. It acts as a shield/reflector on a lot of bow shots.
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Add that shape to this cavity and many shoulder shots are in "No Man's Land". Those shots create a lot of blood and even bubbles in the blood from the muscles working so hard to get away. But that's all most of them turn out to be......blood.
 
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Gern186

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I'm not sure how many people would argue in the first place that shooting a deer thru the shoulder blade...ON PURPOSE is a good idea to begin with.

Alot of bad shooters on this survey. BOX 8, 3 UP FROM THE BOTTOM, the absolute place you should be aiming...only has 1 red dot in it.:D
 

xbowguy

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I'm not sure how many people would argue in the first place that shooting a deer thru the shoulder blade...ON PURPOSE is a good idea to begin with.

Alot of bad shooters on this survey. BOX 8, 3 UP FROM THE BOTTOM, the absolute place you should be aiming...only has 1 red dot in it.:D
You would be absolutely FLOORED to see the things I see. Many pretty much admit (eventually) that they hurried the first shot opportunity offered. "I know the shot wasn't a very good one, but..." "The angle was really shitty so I........" "Not sure where the arrow hit as he was behind a bush" YES, THEY HUNT AMONGST US! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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Stressless

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Here's a question, where do you aim, "Behind the Sholder?".

I've had great luck, vertical line back of the leg, horizontal line 2/3 down but this chart shows nobody either shoots there or hit there.... interesting.

I guess I kinda visualize that dot in the center of that thoracic and regardless of angle thats where the tip of my broadband goes thru - don't think about it any more, just instinct when shooting at a cloven hoofed critter.

LoL- Update pls see Brocks obvious answer below. Perfectly done.
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xbowguy

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Here's a question, where do you aim, "Behind the Sholder?".

I've had great luck, vertical line back of the leg, horizontal line 2/3 down but this chart shows nobody either shoots there or hit there.... interesting.

I guess I kinda visualize that dot in the center of that thoracic and regardless of angle thats where the tip of my broadband goes thru - don't think about it any more, just instinct when shooting at a cloven hoofed critter.
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Stressless

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Interesting Brock - you're exactly right of course and that reminds me a operational problem they had in WWII - they looked at where to armor bombers that made it back to England all shot up... the problem was those that got hit in the critical areas didn't make it back to get where the armor really needed to be recorded.
 
I see a lot of bowhunters with a lack of knowledge, on deer anatomy. By that I mean, knowing where to put an arrow, at any angle OR...when to pass on the shot altogether. 🤔 Archery equipment can be very lethal, but only if it's used by the shooter, to obtain its' best killing attributes. 💯

Switching to a heavy arrow setup with a high FOC, cut-on-contact broadheads and a well tuned bow has lead me thru a lot of shot placement and deer anatomy videos and photos. I'll admit to learning more than I thought I knew, in years past. :sneaky: I've killed my share of deer, but honestly, I wish I had the current/information knowledge that has been made available, in the last 5 years or so, about 40 years ago. 👍
 
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hickslawns

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Hats off to Xbowguy. I quit taking tracks for some of the reasons he described. I was beginning to have a horrible opinion of hunters. That said, even with practice and knowledge of shot placement. . . There are so many things that can go wrong with archery gear. I've been guilty of "less than ideal" shot placement. Nerves, tree limbs, jerk trigger. . . Blame it on whatever you want. Sometimes even the best miss their mark. (And I am definitely not saying I am the best. I am human and have screwed up more than once.)