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2022-23 ODNR deer hunting survey

Hedgelj

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Anyone else get picked?

Lots of questions about what counties i hunted and how many days.
Then at the end quite a few questions aimed at how to get more hunters to shoot more does....🤦

They even asked if i thought that 1/5 of all bucks make the Ohio big buck numbers...
 

Hedgelj

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Ideas they asked my opinion on to nature more does get shot:
Earlier gun season
discount on buying multiple tags at once
shorter season
end the season at the end of gun season
Second buck tag after a buck and doe
doe only time frame
 

jagermeister

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Ideas they asked my opinion on to nature more does get shot:
Earlier gun season
discount on buying multiple tags at once
shorter season
end the season at the end of gun season
Second buck tag after a buck and doe
doe only time frame
Back in the mid-90's, I remember a time when you were only allowed to shoot a doe during the first two days of gun week... then it was buck only for the remainder of the week. Up here in Sandusky Co anyway. I have been wondering if they'd ever implement sex-specific regulations like that again. I'd be okay with it. I'd also be okay with an additional earlier gun season.
 
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"J"

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Back in the mid-90's, I remember a time when you were only allowed to shoot a doe during the first two days of gun week... then it was buck only for the remainder of the week. Up here in Sandusky Co anyway. I have been wondering if they'd ever implement sex-specific regulations like that again. I'd be okay with it. I'd also be okay with an additional earlier gun season.
For the longest time opening day of gun was either sex. Then buck only afterwards.
 
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jagermeister

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For the longest time opening day of gun was either sex. Then buck only afterwards.
Yea, I'm sure it was something like that. It stuck in my mind because I killed my first deer, a nice 6-pointer, on the afternoon it went to buck-only one year.
 
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hickslawns

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Ending the season early was another opinion question. They wanted to know if people would shoot does earlier if season was shorter. Umm. . . Not if there aren't any to shoot.
 

giles

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I've said it for years. They are trying to kill deer that can't be killed. Every year deer get hit by cars. More often than not, that is a no hunting property. So they can raise opportunities and never make a change in those numbers. Those deer can't be hunted. We might as well be trying to control the Amazon from here. #stupit
 

LonewolfNopack

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I've said it for years. They are trying to kill deer that can't be killed. Every year deer get hit by cars. More often than not, that is a no hunting property. So they can raise opportunities and never make a change in those numbers. Those deer can't be hunted. We might as well be trying to control the Amazon from here. #stupit
All they are doing is making already overhunted areas even more decrepid of deer. If they want to do something to lower the deer populations they better come up with billions of dollars and starting buying all the locked up property and turn it to public hunting ground. Hunters would decimate that population really quickly, just like they have on most other public places.
 

giles

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All they are doing is making already overhunted areas even more decrepid of deer. If they want to do something to lower the deer populations they better come up with billions of dollars and starting buying all the locked up property and turn it to public hunting ground. Hunters would decimate that population really quickly, just like they have on most other public places.
Yup, just like the blanket regs people are worried about at state level. Only I'm talking about how they target 500 acres of sanctuary to justify the entire county for bag limits. Our county is arguably the worst in the state for this. (I guess you left us, but you get my point)
 
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Hedgelj

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Yup, just like the blanket regs people are worried about at state level. Only I'm talking about how they target 500 acres of sanctuary to justify the entire county for bag limits. Our county is arguably the worst in the state for this. (I guess you left us, but you get my point)
Yes the area from Canton north on I77 is blanketed with deer that will never be hunted because of landowners not allowing permission or the public land not being open to hunting. But let's allow 6 deer to be shot in the few areas that we can hunt them and somehow that'll make a difference....

like you said "stupit"
 

Jackalope

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Yes the area from Canton north on I77 is blanketed with deer that will never be hunted because of landowners not allowing permission or the public land not being open to hunting. But let's allow 6 deer to be shot in the few areas that we can hunt them and somehow that'll make a difference....

like you said "stupit"

The answer to that is DMAP. When they did their whose who dog and pony stakeholder meeting that the public was effectively kept out of, one of their outcomes was they wanted a DMAP program where landowners could apply for tags above and beyond the permitted zone limits. This will allow landowners to manage the public resource populations on their land how they see fit with the advice of the DOW. DMAP will allow the DOW to get some of those locked-up private land deer killed. Screw the people who actually own the deer. Let's remove the consequence of locking up land in leases and limiting access. Instead, let's reward that behavior by allowing them to shoot more deer. I have always been of the opinion that if you don't allow hunting then deer damage due to population is a consequence of those actions and one they should live with. There should be no such thing as damage permits or DMAP permits.
 

LonewolfNopack

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I personally getting tired of the managing for all response as well. How many stakeholders for wildlife or hunters set on the Ohio Farm Bureau council? How many of the opposite sit on the Ohio Wildlife Council. How many farmers bitch about crop damage but then refuse to let anyone hunt, or maybe they let their grandson hunt on their 1,500 acres full of deer. Until other sides offer concessions for us, im not sure why hunters are always the ones taking the shaft, particularly when hunters and anglers are single handedly keeping the division of wildlife afloat. I feel like the DOW is like Joe Biden, always apologizing to others instead of supporting the ones their supposed to be representing.
 
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Dannmann801

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Anyone else get picked?

Lots of questions about what counties i hunted and how many days.
Then at the end quite a few questions aimed at how to get more hunters to shoot more does....🤦

They even asked if i thought that 1/5 of all bucks make the Ohio big buck numbers...
How did you receive the survey? US mail? Email? App?

I never get picked, but may have missed if it was email....
 

Hedgelj

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What date?
Feb 13
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