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Floki

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So I’m currently working on an absolute nightmare of a hack job of a bungalow.

I’m getting ready,to raise ceiling height in a 24x24 house. Pitch on the roof is roughly 16 degrees . Actually both sides of gable are different. Anyhow Im thinking of putting a lvl beam up to the current ridge. Sistering 2x8 rafters to the 2x6 rafters that are there. notching the rafters to sit on top of the structural beam/lvl at top of the ridge. Then seatcutting them to sit inside the wall and on plate beside 2x6 rafters.

Problem I’m having is the hacks before that built the place didn’t put a birds mouth on the existing rafters. I’m sorta at a stand still trying to figure out what to do about that. Mind you I just put a new roof on the place.So taking roof off isn’t A option. Needless to say I didn’t know about the rafters or that after the fact the guy wanted his ceiling height changed . Basically going to vault the ceiling. I just don’t want the load transfer to kick out the walls.

Anyone have any recommendations? I would have never used a 2x6 for rafters to begin with. Anyhow it’s not about what shoulda been it’s what it is.

Ugh...
 

Floki

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Guess I should also add none of the block walls are cored nor is there any anchor bolts, oh and they used a 2x4 for a sill plate. It’s a hot mess. Done raised up stairs subfloor 3inches on one side.

Reframed basement put new linels over the windows cause they left them out. Floor in basement is as level as a small foot hill. Every stud needed cut. Removed the main 2x10 beam they had in center for subfloor. Put in new lvl beam. I could go on. But y’all get it by now.

Disclaimer I don’t usually do much in remodeling renovations etc.

But whoever built this place. Needs a good asswhoopin.
 

Floki

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Some things you just can’t fix.

Are they Simpson tied or anything?

Nope, lol the struggle is real!! Hell probably only one nail in rafter. On ends of main ridge beam they ran out of 2x8 for ridge board and used a 2x6 no post where they put in 2x6 to 2x8 ridge beam. 😡😂🤪🤬🤬🤬🤬.

My 6 year old could do better building this place by me telling him how to after a case n half of beer. It’s a nightmare.
 

giles

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I’d personally walk away from it if they didn’t want to start over. Sounds like any added weight and that roof is going to fold in on itself.
 
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Floki

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Add some structural ties to the rafters.


Well with doing that I could only get 1/3 of height off wall to ridge meaning about 15 inches more or 9 foot 3 then I would have to have a beam below it. To carry hold the rafter ties. He wants vaulted ceilings.
 

Floki

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I’d personally walk away from it if they didn’t want to start over. Sounds like any added weight and that roof is going to fold in on itself.
That’s why I want to put a structural beam under the ridge. To help carry the weight. I’m just concerned about the load transfer of the new beam to the walls and sister joists. Due to no birds mouth.

I’ve never walked off of a job I started. One thing im not is a quitter. Plus I have all the inside work to do all the way to trim floors siding. Then a 2story garage and deck to build at same place. 👍🏻