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Denny
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Haven’t read all of the past responses but skimming it I didn’t see any mention of positive strides like the news lately of the medication mixture or the Malaria drug and z pack having great results in clinical trials. That’s got to be a huge plus, right?

Yep! Been around for a while, safe and it's easy peasy. We'll be alright. Media is full of shit about their claim of danger of those drugs.
 
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This is very concerning and raises an issue with me. So Coumo said today "We've procured about 7,000 ventilators. We need, as a minimum, other 30,000 ventilators'

So what happens when large population centers like NY suck up all of the available medical supplies and then places like Louisiana who are just a couple weeks behind NY start to need them? What about the areas that are 4-5 weeks away from having the issues that NY currently has. Is NY going to ship them to those states?

I hope to God that States are aggressively procuring and " hoarding" the supplies needed to handle their own upcoming demand. I have a bad feeling that fly over states are doing to get fucked on this.

Here’s a good article on why New York is where it’s at. You won’t see it on the news of course. Infuriating.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ding-ventilators-he-refused-to-order-in-2015/
 

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Take it from a cancer survivor and someone that had histoplasmsis.

Zpak & Hydroxychloroquine are very safe and I've been treated with both in the past.

Histoplasmosis is a type of lung infection. It is caused by inhaling Histoplasma capsulatum fungal spores. These spores are found in soil and in the droppings of bats and birds. This fungus mainly grows in the central, southeastern, and mid-Atlantic states.

The most common symptoms of disseminated histoplasmosis are:
  • Fever and chills, flu-like illness.
  • Headaches.
  • Shortness of breath—severe and leading to respiratory failure.
  • Drop in blood pressure.
  • Cough and chest pain.
  • Enlarged spleen and liver.
  • Gastrointestinal bleeding.
  • Ulcerations in the mouth and lip.
 

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Yep! Been around for a while, safe and it's easy peasy. We'll be alright. Media is full of shit about their claim of danger of those drugs.

Here is another overreach. This is absolutely crazy. Who the hell is this guy to say. There are some here in America that seem to want to fail. Nevada governor issues executive order banning the prescription use of hydroxychloroquine for Coronavirus

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...roxychloroquine-for-treatment-of-coronavirus/
 

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Here is another overreach. This is absolutely crazy. Who the hell is this guy to say. There are some here in America that seem to want to fail. Nevada governor issues executive order banning the prescription use of hydroxychloroquine for Coronavirus

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...roxychloroquine-for-treatment-of-coronavirus/


Unfortunately there is evil in this world and there are those around us that wants this country to crash and burn.

I can only tell you that I've personally been prescribed these drugs in the past and my doctor didn't mess around in treating me. I was back on my feet and in good health in a matter of no time after I was diagnosed.
 
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Unfortunately their is evil in this world and there are those around us that wants this country to crash and burn.

I can only tell you that I've personally been prescribed these drugs in the past and my doctor didn't mess around in treating me. I was back on my feet and in good health in a matter of no time after I was diagnosed.

It’s good to know someone who has taken it.By all means. Yet if it wasn’t a medication that wasn’t safe I’m sure it wouldn’t be out there.

Yeah there are medications out there that will cause some serious problems. Yet if the chance of living is there, majority of people take that chance.

Leave it up to the person who’s going to have to make the choice not the damn Governor or the Government for all I care.

As far as evil in this world, we’ll Im not going to go there. I will say this tho,Just as I tell my kid your either an American or an Americant!
 

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
March 25, 2020
MEDIA CONTACT:
Dominic Binkley: 614-728-4127

Yost, Other AGs Urge Online
Marketplaces to Turn up Heat on Price Gouging

(COLUMBUS, Ohio) — Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost today joined 32 other attorneys general in urging Amazon, Facebook, eBay, Walmart and Craigslist to more rigorously fight price gouging by online sellers using their services.
“The internet shouldn’t be a safe haven for bad actors to hold necessities hostage,” Yost said. “These companies need to do more to police their marketplaces, especially during a global health crisis.”
A letter from the attorneys general sent to the companies today lists several examples of price gouging on the marketplace platforms, all of which have taken place during the COVID-19 pandemic: on Craigslist, a two-liter bottle of hand sanitizer was being sold for $250; on Facebook Marketplace, an eight-ounce bottle was being sold for $40; and on eBay, packs of face masks were being sold for $40 and $50.
The attorneys general recommend several changes to protect consumers from price gouging:
  • Set policies and enforce restrictions on unconscionable price gouging during emergencies: Online retail platforms should prevent unconscionable price increases from occurring by creating and enforcing strong policies that prevent sellers from deviating in any significant way from the product’s price before an emergency. Such policies should examine historical seller prices and the price offered by other sellers of the same or similar products to identify and eliminate price gouging.
  • Trigger price gouging protections prior to an emergency declaration when major weather events or possible health risks are expected.
  • Implement a complaint portal for consumers to report price gouging.
In addition to Ohio, the letter was signed by attorneys general from California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington and Wyoming.
Ohioans who suspect unfair business practices should contact the Ohio Attorney General’s Office at www.OhioProtects.org or 1-800-282-0515.
 

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It's not that they aren't safe. They've been proven many times over to be so. It's that the FDA hasn't approved them for treatment of Coronavirus. They say that they need to conduct clinical trials to determine if it works. They also haven't given a date of when those will be complete. It's a bunch of bullshit from an agency that still will not admit that vitamin supplements like vitamins C, vitamin D and others provide any health benefit at all.
 

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It's not that they aren't safe. They've been proven many times over to be so. It's that the FDA hasn't approved them for treatment of Coronavirus. They say that they need to conduct clinical trials to determine if it works. They also haven't given a date of when those will be complete. It's a bunch of bullshit from an agency that still will not admit that vitamin supplements like vitamins C, vitamin D and others provide any health benefit at all.

I wish it were possible to like this more than once.
 

giles

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
March 25, 2020
MEDIA CONTACT:
Dominic Binkley: 614-728-4127

Yost, Other AGs Urge Online
Marketplaces to Turn up Heat on Price Gouging

(COLUMBUS, Ohio) — Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost today joined 32 other attorneys general in urging Amazon, Facebook, eBay, Walmart and Craigslist to more rigorously fight price gouging by online sellers using their services.
“The internet shouldn’t be a safe haven for bad actors to hold necessities hostage,” Yost said. “These companies need to do more to police their marketplaces, especially during a global health crisis.”
A letter from the attorneys general sent to the companies today lists several examples of price gouging on the marketplace platforms, all of which have taken place during the COVID-19 pandemic: on Craigslist, a two-liter bottle of hand sanitizer was being sold for $250; on Facebook Marketplace, an eight-ounce bottle was being sold for $40; and on eBay, packs of face masks were being sold for $40 and $50.
The attorneys general recommend several changes to protect consumers from price gouging:
  • Set policies and enforce restrictions on unconscionable price gouging during emergencies: Online retail platforms should prevent unconscionable price increases from occurring by creating and enforcing strong policies that prevent sellers from deviating in any significant way from the product’s price before an emergency. Such policies should examine historical seller prices and the price offered by other sellers of the same or similar products to identify and eliminate price gouging.
  • Trigger price gouging protections prior to an emergency declaration when major weather events or possible health risks are expected.
  • Implement a complaint portal for consumers to report price gouging.
In addition to Ohio, the letter was signed by attorneys general from California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington and Wyoming.
Ohioans who suspect unfair business practices should contact the Ohio Attorney General’s Office at www.OhioProtects.org or 1-800-282-0515.
At what point do you draw the line? I don’t like this and think it’s being pushed by corporations, not people. Charmin is probably upset they didn’t think of it.

What about a bar charging me $5 for a busch light? Does this count?

What about the guy charging me $2,500 to flatten my driveway of potholes?

Supply and demand. Now, the asshole running out and buying off the shelf, to overcharge the neighbor. That guy needs to be charged. He needs to pay up and do some public services to face the community he tried to screw.

Slippery slope
 
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It's not that they aren't safe. They've been proven many times over to be so. It's that the FDA hasn't approved them for treatment of Coronavirus. They say that they need to conduct clinical trials to determine if it works. They also haven't given a date of when those will be complete. It's a bunch of bullshit from an agency that still will not admit that vitamin supplements like vitamins C, vitamin D and others provide any health benefit at all.

There is a similar process for approving and using pesticides. Say chemical X is approved for ear worms on field corn. It would be a violation of federal law to use it for army worms on field corn if the label doesn’t specifically say that.

There is a herbicide Halosulfuron-methyl that is sold under the trade name Premit. Permit costs about $250 for 10 oz and is labeled for field, sweet, and pop corn. Halosulfuron-methyl is also sold as Sandea at $450 for 10 oz and is labeled for things like pumpkins, squash, melons. There is no difference in chemistry, only name and EPA registration numbers and they are from the same company. It is illegal to use Permit on pumpkins and it’s illegal to use Sandea on corn. The reason for the difference is the cost of EPA approval for each crop. Sandea is used on crops of limited acreage so the added cost pays for cost of government regulations.
 

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Denny
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At what point do you draw the line? I don’t like this and think it’s being pushed by corporations, not people. Charmin is probably upset they didn’t think of it.

What about a bar charging me $5 for a busch light? Does this count?

What about the guy charging me $2,500 to flatten my driveway of potholes?

Supply and demand. Now, the asshole running out and buying off the shelf, to overcharge the neighbor. That guy needs to be charged. He needs to pay up and do some public services to face the community he tried to screw.

Slippery slope

I'm just passing it along, so please don't kill the messenger. I get all kinds of Ohio official emails and I thought this one was worth sharing if no one was aware.

They followed up with this one moments ago...


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
March 25, 2020
MEDIA CONTACT:
Bethany McCorkle: 614-466-1339

Statement from AG Yost regarding Enforcement of Ohio Department of Health’s Order to Preserve Personal Protective Equipment During a Pandemic Emergency

(COLUMBUS, Ohio) — The following statement may be attributed to Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost:
“Establishing roles in a crisis is critical. In the current COVID-19 crisis, the Attorney General’s office plays a specific role. We are the prosecutor and the Ohio Department of Health is the police officer. My office will take quick enforcement action once an investigation is completed by the Department of Health, when facts to support a violation are determined, and a case is forwarded to my office. That is the standard protocol.
In Ohio, the Attorney General’s office lacks the extensive and explicit investigatory authority to independently take action with regard to this order. That authority lies with the Department of Health as the regulatory agency under Ohio Rev. Code 3701.04 and Ohio Admin. Code 3701-83-06. If the Department of Health determines through an investigation that Dr. Acton’s order was violated by any surgical facility in Ohio, my office stands ready to play our role and pursue legal action on behalf of the Ohio Department of Health.
Complaints regarding possible violations of Dr. Acton’s order should be filed with the Ohio Department of Health, as the department serves as the investigatory arm. In this instance, the attorney general plays the role of the prosecutor, not the cop.”
The graphic above is available on the attorney general's Twitter page.
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Unfortunately there is evil in this world and there are those around us that wants this country to crash and burn.

I can only tell you that I've personally been prescribed these drugs in the past and my doctor didn't mess around in treating me. I was back on my feet and in good health in a matter of no time after I was diagnosed.
I to have been prescribed these drugs and it knocked the virus I had on it’s ass....I could not shake it for 2-3 weeks...was finally having trouble breathing and feverish....took the Zpack and drug mentioned and cleared things up within a week!!!!!
 

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It made it's way to my dad's work. They sent 3 people home and all 3 were in the office yesterday. Dad is 66, my mom 61 and a for sure goner if she gets this. My wife is still working and the way they've handled it at her hospital, it's just a matter of when she's exposed. This is a terrible moment in time to say the least.
 
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