Not that many of us didn't already think so
US Healthcare is failing us
- Thread starter Hedgelj
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Not that many of us didn't already think so
Lots of issues at play here. But I do believe we are one of the most unhealthy developed countries in the world. And we have a Healthcare system to match it.
ThatBuckeyeGuy
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Dietary choices and the weight you carry sets the stage for many chronic illnesses.
My argument would be that we have ill care, not healthcare.
Education on proper health care doesn't happen. We treat symptoms with medication. We don't treat what is cause the symptoms.
So, if I understand you right, you're more concerned about health education. Informing/teaching people what constitutes a healthy lifestyle and diet?
The one thing I've learned over the last 50 years is that the government never does anything with just 'educating and informing' in mind. They always have some outcome they desire to achieve. My concern is what steps a governing entity would take to reign in those who refuse to listen or follow their education and thwart their desired outcome.
See 14 days to flatten the curve, mask mandates, and vaccination mandates. Those were all done in the name of our current healthcare system. Now add oversight of diet and exercise to that government arsenal.
That's a slippery slope for me. I don't want to give any government entity more power over our daily lives. Certainly not in the name of safety, health, or the like. They are already attacking gun ownership via mental health legislation and risk to minors or the suicidal. I would rather have a nation where 32% of the inhabitants are obese, but they have the freedom to choose how they want to live their lives.
ThatBuckeyeGuy
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There's no money , end game , or control in that style of thinking , shhhhh they can hear you right now... for real
ThatBuckeyeGuy
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WoofExcuse me sir you're being insubordinate and a bad little lamb right now shame on you !
ThatBuckeyeGuy
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It's not affordable, not even close. I know the graphic is about obesity, but it spans farther then that. Choosing between receiving quality medical care and buying groceries isn't a choice that any hard working family should ever have to make in a developed country, let alone " the greatest country", yet it happens many times a day every day. Issues go unresolved and exasperated due to not being able to afford quality care. Our countries health, and Healthcare, is a joke. RFK JR has done a great job bringing this to light recently.
I'll take our system over every other system in the world. If you're going to angle for a socialized system like Europe and Canada have, that's a non starter for me.
Like it or not, Healthcare is not a right. It's not enumerated in the constitution. It's a service. You get what you pay for.
I don't suggest a socialized system. I'm just stating what we have doesn't work. I don't have a fix, but would think one of the many smart guys in our political system would by now. One thing I do know is that it's not Obamacare. Good healthcare for everyone in our country may not be a constitutional right, but it is certainly a human right, especially for the working class, in my opinion at least. No hard working families should have to face the issues we have with healthcare or housing in our country right now, but that's a different matter.
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I wish I had more time to unbox this comment today because it's incredibly ill-informed. It's not nearly 100% about choice, but an arbitrary split that varies by person. At some point, I can give you example after example of physicians who'd rather medicate than educate. My own mother is letting diabetes win (choices) but out of the dozens of physicians she's seen, only one was brutally honest with her about her dietary choices. We're a fat national because of a host of systematic issues which most certainly includes the failure of our healthcare system to prioritize education, diet, and exercise over prescription medication.
I know quite a few people that could be retired right now but still need to work because of health care. If I retire next year and go on my wife's plan she would basically be working to pay for both our plans with no extra money to save. Swim the river or climb the fence and it's free. Yeah it's a problem.