End of the line?

[brock ratcliff]

I killed a buck in 2017 that is an identical twin to the deer I shot this year. They have matching stickers at the base below the brows. Matching everything except this year’s deer would probably score 15-20” bigger. I had every intention of sawing the horns off this year’s deer and mounting them to a board until I realized the similarity. I’m gonna put them side by side on the mancave wall now. So what y’all think, related? Wish I had better pics but I don’t. I had to go back through my old hunt journal here to find the pic of 2017.

These deer were killed about 600 yards and five years apart.

 

[Jackalope]

I'd say this damn near spot on.

 

[Trueroots]

Looks like it to me also. Pretty dang cool!

 

[giles]

I already told you what I would name them

 

[finelyshedded]

Very well could be bros but I’d say definitely from same genetics.

 

[bowhunter1023]

Pretty cool to see and the fun part of hunting the same areas for a good while.

 

[brock ratcliff]

I agree, Jesse. We’ve shot some that looked a little alike, but these two look far more alike than I do with my own dad. Lol. It didn’t even occur to me until I had him skinned out and in the bag.

 

[at1010]

Wow that’s cool!! Genetic clones hahaha. Beautiful bucks as well.

 

[jagermeister]

Absolutely possible. The similarities are pretty striking. And if this year's deer was born in 2018, a result of the 2017 buck impregnating a doe before you killed him, that would make this year's buck a 4.5 year old... which is certainly plausible and actually pretty likely. That scenario wouldn't surprise me one bit.

 

[giles]

Absolutely possible. The similarities are pretty striking. And if this year's deer was born in 2018, a result of the 2017 buck impregnating a doe before you killed him, that would make this year's buck a 4.5 year old... which is certainly plausible and actually pretty likely. That scenario wouldn't surprise me one bit.

That completely blows away everything we've been told about bucks moving away.

 

[jagermeister]

That completely blows away everything we've been told about bucks moving away.

Yea, I’m definitely not convinced they all move away. I’ve seen common genetics in the areas I hunt for too long to believe it.

 

[hickslawns]

That completely blows away everything we've been told about bucks moving away.

Or does it tell us there was a doe who popped out fawns for 10yrs? Or more likely, multiple does passing along very similar genes? I have read the does are responsible for more than 50% of the genes which pass on. Not sure if it is true. I would think it is 50/50 but I would only have a 50/50 shot at being right.

 

[giles]

With the logic of how bucks move away, these 2 bucks would have to be brothers IMO.

 

[md1]

The claim is 1 in 4 stay? I think we had 4.5 yr old brothers killed a 1/2mile apart this season. Seems the same genes are still around from 16yrs of hunting around my house.

 

[Dannmann801]

The guy in front is my Nov '21 buck.
The guy behind him is @Buckmaster 's buck, shot off the same property.
I freaked out at how close they were.
Not as cool as Brocks or as close in time (I don't know what year Ben's was) but still definitely related. Very interesting stuff.

@Buckmaster Ben what year did you shoot that guy?

 

[brock ratcliff]

Or does it tell us there was a doe who popped out fawns for 10yrs? Or more likely, multiple does passing along very similar genes? I have read the does are responsible for more than 50% of the genes which pass on. Not sure if it is true. I would think it is 50/50 but I would only have a 50/50 shot at being right.

We do have at least one doe that I’ve videotaped for ten years. Could be she’s the common denominator, or one like her that isn’t as recognizable.

 

[Buckmaster]

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The guy in front is my Nov '21 buck.
The guy behind him is @Buckmaster 's buck, shot off the same property.
I freaked out at how close they were.
Not as cool as Brocks or as close in time (I don't know what year Ben's was) but still definitely related. Very interesting stuff.

@Buckmaster Ben what year did you shoot that guy?

2002 I believe. Metal tag is still on it.