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Denny
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Whatcha know, or whatcha use or whatcha your favorite?

Thought this would be a fun thread while passing the time for the new up and coming deer hunting season. I hope that many here will hopefully participate and share your secret and/or go to bait for certain types of fish, and/or whatever you deem to be important in order to increase your success or lesson the odds for the day while getting your pole wet?
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Growing up on the largest finger lake in N.Y., Oneida Lake, as a kid, and not born with a silver spoon in my mount or two nickels to rub together in my pocket, my brothers and I would go on the hunt for live fishing bait regularly, so we could go fishing and/or often would sell our collection to other fisherman that came into the area looking for any fishing bait.

Such as, but not limited too;
  • Nightcrawlers
  • Earth Worms
  • Leaches
  • Grubs
  • Grasshoppers
  • Carpenter Bees
  • Caterpillars
  • Spiders
  • Snails
  • Frogs
  • Salamanders
  • Small Snakes or Baby Snakes
  • Soft crawls
  • All kinds of Minnows & Creek Chubs
  • Larger fish caught on fishing line for larger fish to be caught, such as Blue Gil, Sunfish, Carp, & Small Yellow Belly Bullheads for Large Catfish or Northern, Muskellunge or Pickerel Pike
We would use just about anything we could find and/or catch in order to go fishing that morning and/or evening.

My mother would take us boys often to the local cemeteries at night with a flashlight in one hand and coffee tin can in the other, right after a nice heavy rain to go nightcrawler huntin. Those cemeteries were great for hunting down nightcrawlers let me tell ya. We would catch them by the thousands at a time and would set up the very next day in front of our home to sell most of them to the weekend fisherman. Of course, the only way of marketing them back then was to post a large sign you made up and placed it out at the main road on a utility pole, just off the Northshore, State Route 49, and another one nailed down on our boat dock, stating either ‘LIVE BAIT’ or ‘WORMS FOR SALE’ with a big arrow pointing right to our home. Often however, most were sold through word of mouth and usually pulled up to our boat dock asking for them before heading out to their favorite spot on the lake for the day.

Just to mention if by change you didn't know, another down and dirty way of getting worms real quick anytime and pretty much anywhere, is to take a 5 gallon bucket with lukewarm water and a small amount of regular liquid dishwashing soap, mix it up pretty good and then poor it over some decent shaded grassy area, and wait for them to rise up out of the ground. That mixture alone would suffocate any worms below ground level if they do not surface rather quickly for air, then grab what you need. Rinse them off afterwards in clean water. That trick alone would usually cover my entire day of fishing in like 10 minutes of work. Of course, you would want to also, dilute the soapy grassy area with more water if you do not want to burn up that grass and have someone really, really pissed off atcha :LOL: It will burn up in the direct all day sun & heat...

On any given weekend, we’d make a killin, usually selling most of the nightcrawlers for about $1 dollar/100 or $4 bucks/500. That would cover for any new fishing gear and/or fishing tackle and/or fuel for the boat for us back in the day after a month of sales.

My grandfather created and operated his own bait shop business when I was just a little toddler and he too taught me a whole lot about fishing, and I'm just thankful that I had the pleasure and opportunity to fish with him often back in the day. He was a wise man that shared all his fishing secrets with me.
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Anyhow, I would like to hear from all of you, what’s your secret or go to for fishing bait, whether you use live or artificial bait, lurers, jigs, spinners or whatever. Please share with all of us, and any of the details with regards to your fishing rod setups, along with whatever type weather, wind & water conditions most preferred for your choosing, and finally, what specifically you’re fishing for with regards to your bait selection plus rod setup.

Again, I hope most here will participate, so perhaps some can learn and potentially make their day when they hit the water with a fishing rod in hand.

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Finally, I never used Cicadas before because I never seen them before until I lived here in the beautiful Buckeye State. I just took this photograph of one that is on my pickup truck tire moments ago and I immediately thought about using him for fishing bait. First, are they legal to use for fishing and, anyone know by chance if there're any good for it? I would imagine so cause grasshoppers or carpenter bees work absolutely great for most any kind of bass with just a light line and a decent hook set through the body of them while floating on the water surface in calm waters. I've landed some of my biggest bass catches in moments, almost as soon as the bait hit the water, by doing just that over the years. Hope someone can chime in and let me know, thanks! I haven't really looked into it on-line and thought someone here could let me know.

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BTW, I looked briefly for a thread much like this one I just created that covers specifically this information, and I really didn’t see one exactly like it, but if there is one, then please disregard, and kindly delete this, if by chance there is in fact one already created. Appreciate it, @bowhunter1023 or @Jackalope !
 
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JARHEAD

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They are actually excellent bait. I've caught many bass, catfish and bluegills believe it or not, especially in farm ponds. As for the legalities... Ive never heard of any. After all they are native to Ohio.
 
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Denny
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They are actually excellent bait. I've caught many bass, catfish and bluegills believe it or not, especially in farm ponds. As for the legalities... Ive never heard of any. After all they are native to Ohio.

I figured they would be real good bait.... Thanks for letting me know, I really appreciate it!
 

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Denny
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I'd like for this thread to include ice fishing as well. I've done a lot of it as kid. Another way I made money back then was taking out of town ice fisherman on & off the lake utilizing at the time my 1979 Artic Cat 499cc Panther Snowmobile - a Cadillac version with a large cleated track and electric start. I'd haul a large wooden toboggan on the back with gear and fisherman, or any ice shanty they had with them, ususally taking them out 2-3 miles one way as well.

It looked very much like this below, but without the leopard decal and it had the longer wheel track base too.
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I used at least a dozen or more tip-ups with small colored #4-6 jigs with a fish eye hooked through the jig hook. I also had several small ice fishing rods as well, utilizing one of them while watching my tip-ups from afar while working a particular spot with the ice fishing rod.

So again, this thread should cover or include whatever type of fishing you like. Just try to be as specific as you can or like, thanks!
 
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Denny
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I don't have a large collection of old photographs of my past, but I do have some rather handy of just few of the fish catches that I, or my brother & I, or brother, buddy and I caught after a morning fishing run. The others are my father when he became one of the first youngest railroad engineers, my grandfather (my dad's dad) and my mother. We had a few boats, but the one we fished out of mainly was a 14' aluminum with a old 50h Mercury on the back. Most of the fish catches you see below were either my brother and I, or buddy, brother and I were walleye. The one with me and a big catfish was when I fished all alone and that channel pulled me into a rather deep creek trying to land him and I had to bear hug the fish while in the water up to my neck trying to get him to the creek bank. I would say I was about 7 or 8 years old at the time. I was pretty proud of the catch I tell ya! I caught him with some of the nightcrawlers we would catch as kids on a regular basis.

Hope you all can see and understand that fishing was truly a way of life for me as kid. I don't recall really missing a day of not fishing when I was young.
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Top row left to right: Dad in the locomotive, Dad & Grandfather, Dad behind the house he was born in-fishing, Grandfather in front of his bait shop/home with a Northern Pike, also the same house my dad was fishing behind in the previous photograph.
Second row left to right: me & younger brother, buddy, brother & me, buddy, brother & me, me, buddy & brother.
Third row left to right: Oneida Lake froze over, me with that catfish that pulled me in the creek trying to land him; me with a pair of big walleye caught off our boat dock just before a thunderstorm, and finally, my dear mother on the back of one of dad's cars around the time I was first born.


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Denny
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Okay, I’ll continue to work through this thread hoping that others will eventually jump in and share some of their own knowledge and/or experience with all of us, plus for the viewing public audience.
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Below is one of my favorite artificial lures to catch most any kind of bass in most any Ohio creeks, ponds, and/or lakes.

When I was young, I collected fishing rods and reels, typically all purchased through garage sales or hand me downs. My mother loved going garage sale shopping often when I was a kid, and again, we weren’t exactly well off with disposable spending money to buy brand new items at the big named brand stores, which most of all those stores were many miles away from us anyways, such as Syracuse, N.Y. A long one-way trip to that city, a pretty much all-day excursion/choir because just traveling one way would be well over 70 miles, so we made those kinds of planned trips only if we had too. If we had to go to any of those bigger towns and/or cities, it was always a planned trip well advance to hit most of those bigger specific stores to grab whatever was necessary at the time to save on fuel for our driving vehicles. Gas was very expensive back then in the 70’s. We lived in the rural country, just south of the Adirondacks State Park, on the Northshore of Oneida Lake. My high school was even 27 miles away one-way, just to give you some context or prospective.

So, garage sales always fit the bill for us back in the day. When mother took us boys, garage sale shopping, I always kept my eyes wide open and peeled, always looking out for fishing gear. I specifically sought out for any open face ‘Mitchell’ reels and/or ‘Eagle Claw’ fishing rods back then. They were my favorites, no matter the size. My experience with them back in the day, was that they never failed or let me down in crucial moments and/or catches, ever! Quality fishing gear to catch quality fish nearly all the time. I always had the best fishing gear over my brothers and/or buddies, and they always envied me when they saw me catching those bigger and better fish over them, usually always on a consistent basis. Occasionally, I would lend out one of my rod setups to one of them if by chance I either wasn’t fishing that day or I wanted more fish caught between all of us while out, but that was far and few in between times. I always gloated proudly when I brought home my bigger catches for dinner. It was always appreciated.

Quite recently, I picked up this old antique ‘Mitchell’ 300 series open face reel at a flea market and it’s the same reel that I had on all of my lake fishing rigs back in the day. IMHO, they were the best money could buy back in the 70’s & 80’s. Very durable & solid, can take a beating, easy to maintain/fix and always performed in all kinds of conditions. Never really had an issue with any of them that I can distinctly recall. They would last for years over any of the others I used back then.

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Now to today’s gear; the fishing rod you see below is one of my newest 5’6” light action ‘Ugly Stick’ with a newer ‘Mitchell’ open face reel on it. I have another one just like it, but it is smaller. It’s my ultra-light action rod with the same reel. I use these types of fishing rod setups for all kinds of Bass, Bluegill, Croppy, Sunfish or for catching bait, such as larger Creek Chubs and/or Minnows or live bait for catfish, like smaller Bluegill or Yellow Bellies. They are truly awesome little rigs, again IMHO. Never have I had either one of them let me down. They are my preferred brands still today for this kind of fishing. I also have a few different types of ‘Abu Garcia’ reels, such as, open face & bait casters, which I also love as a quality and preferred brand, but I will get to that and cover those items in a different post later with regards to that type of fishing gear for much larger fish.
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I would also like to mention, there really isn’t anything wrong with any kind of fishing tackle and/or gear. It’s whatever it will take to get you out there to enjoy the great outdoors. This thread is primarily for those who wish to share, what they like, what they prefer, what’s their secret, and/or, what they use, so, let me be very clear about that. By no means do I firmly believe you have to have what any of us are using to be successful fishing, however, this thread should pretty much include best practices based off of experiences and/or learned knowledge on the waters fishing shared. It’s entirely up to you, the audience, whether you choose to take any advice and/or opinions shared, here on this thread, obviously, but I felt it’s more than appropriate to clarify that while pressing forward on this thread.
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Again, just below are my ‘go-to’ gear and tackle first for mainly all kinds of bass fishing here in the Buckeye State. I prefer starting off with the #4-6 1/8-3/8oz. black color with white eye jig and a yellow 3/8” ‘Berkley PowerBait Power Crub’ artificial bait. It basically simulates a bumble bee in the water and usually if any fish are in the immediate area, they will hit it as soon as the bait hits the water during prime weather conditions and times of day, or shortly thereafter with a decent jerking action in between a few turns of the reel.

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I have caught thousands of bass over the last decade in all kinds of Ohio’s waters with this kind of setup. You are more than welcome to review a few examples within the ‘TOO’ competition fishing thread where I caught most all my bass utilizing this specific setup, specifically, catching many of the bass that I shared throughout that friendly competition thread. Just click the hyperlink just below.

2019 Fishing Contest

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I also shared one of my two sided tackle boxes as well below. This particular one is mainly for any active/aggressive game type fish, such as bass or any of the pike family species. The other one I have will be shared later in a different post, just like what I mentioned previously within this post in the previous shared paragraph.

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As you can see, I have several different artificial baits, such as, jigs, rubber attachments, spinners, poppers & lurers. All are what I seek out and prefer to have within my arsenal for that type of fishing here in the state, usually off the banks of all kinds of different types of water. The fishing line should always be a quality brand that is appropriate for those fishing rigs. Typically, I use the Berkley Trilene brand around 4-8lbs in strength for these fishing rod setups..

I hope my sharing this sparks others to also participate within this thread. If not, I at least hope some enjoyed my sharing.

Regardless, I wish everyone, all current or future fisherman success whenever out fishing, no matter how you do it, as long as it's legal.

Take care & good luck!

Thanks for following in along, much appreciated!
 
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Denny
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Wanted to quickly share this item too since I've been going through some of my fishing gear and equipment this afternoon, which again, is another antique and if you're ever lucky enough to find them still today, I'd highly suggest you jump all over it and buy it if you can. I know there are other solutions out there that are new, and even electric options, but as far as durability and ease of use anywhere no matter what, when or where, this particular tool is tough to beat, IMHO!

It's a 'TOWNSEND FISH SKINNER' manufactured in TOWNSHED ENGINERRING CO, Des Moines, Iowa. I used to have a few them during the old days and they are awesome to remove all kinds of different fish species outer skin, whether they have large heavy scales or none at all. I always filleted most all my fish, then skinned them with this wonderful handy tool in seconds. There were certain types of fish species that I would not skin at all, such as certain salmon species, trout and smelt. Most everything else, I would skin for preparing for a meal or to freeze.

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giles

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Hard to beat a good ole earthworm. You can use it to catch smaller fish for bait or big fish. Everything eats them that I would want to target for food.

Cast net and a way to preserve the bait. Worms included. Do just about anything you wanted in Ohio. Just don't tell those catch and release guys...they like throwing pollution in the water😂
 

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Denny
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I haven't used live bait for walleye in 6 years. All artificial. Crankbaits and spoons are all you need.

Do you mind sharing some more details, such as size & colors, or better yet, any photos, or is that asking too much? Like what's your most preferred when starting off for the day when you get to your spot?

Trust me, I've been following along your charter thread, which is awesome, and we've chatted about getting together to get me out sometime. Hope that'll still happen someday, perhaps maybe next year. I love me some walleye, and whole bunch of it, so keep that in mind, thanks!
 
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GoetsTalon

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Back when we were kids a old timer taught us how to make dough balls. They worked pretty good for catfish and blue gills. Like you we also hunted the local cemetery for night crawlers. I still remember the night when somebody driving by seen the lights and thought we were robbing graves lol. Cops came in hot lol. We had permission so we would just call and give a heads up when we were going to go.
 
As a kid in the 60’s we had a local Miracle Mart fairly close to home. My four brothers and I caddied at the country club for spending money. Actually I never caddied, I carried golf bags from the big shots Cadillac or Lincoln to the first tee or putting green. This was anywhere from 50-100 yards or so. They would tip me $2-3 for this. On a good day I could make $75 or more. So I always had money for fishing tackle and shotgun shells for my Iver Johnson.410 single shot. We always fished with lures, never used much live bait. My go to lures we’re floating Rapala Minnows in Hopes Silver and a Lazy Ike in Yellow with Red Spots. We caught lots of Largemouths on these.

During the spring bluegill spawn l always fished with my 6 1/2’ Eagle Claw Featherweight fly rod and a black or yellow Weber Half Wit popper. These were the only poppers made of plastic at that time. They didn’t break like the cork or wooden ones did all the time.

Today I mainly troll for Crappie and my go to lure USA Norman Tiny N in a Smokey Joe finish.

Fishing led me to collecting fishing tackle when I hit my early 40’s. Over the years I have bought, sold and traded thousands of lures and reels. My go to reel is still the Mitchell 300 that was made in France. Pictured is a small part of my lure collection.
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