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[Ohiosam]

Last spring the feed mill up the road needed high speed internet so they had Spectrum run a fiber optic about 3 miles. Most of the way was on poles but across my place they had to bore 400 yards along the road right of way coming out of the ground at the pole in my front yard.

Today I noticed water gushing out the 2” conduit and running down the road. I believe the water is coming from my pond, the over flow dumps in the ditch 300 yards up the road and some how getting in the conduit. The pond was low and just started running over a few days ago.

Called and talked to the company that installed it. Spoke to the supervisor that was here during the installation. Of course he’s never seen this before . He thinks it’s the rain, I don’t because we only got an inch. My short term concern is if it doesn’t stop the road will become a sheet of ice as temps drop this weekend.

 

[giles]

What's the other end of the pipe like? Under water? No real way for water to suddenly leak into bore pipe. The other end would have to be under water and this side is lower. Unless another bore was done and damaged this pipe. Or something done to damage it. But it sounds like you would know if you dug into it somehow. Any new fence or signs?

 

[jagermeister]

Get a bottle of flourescent green tracer dye (non-toxic). Put a bunch in your pond near the outflow. Then watch to see if green dye shows up from the conduit. Easy way to rule things out/in.

 

[jagermeister]

This is what I use. They are located in Lorain.

Norlab Tracing Dyes | Norlab Dyes

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[Ohiosam]

It runs uphill to the next farm and the other end is near the top of the hill. Nothing up there to supply this kind of water. The conduit is like 7-8 months old, no digging or anything has happened. I noticed the water on the road a few days ago but didn’t think enough about it to investigate, then it rained a couple days.

 

[giles]

400' bore should be one continous pipe. Only open on 2 ends

 

[Ohiosam]

Doesn’t matter to me if the water is from my pond’s over flow. They need to figure out where they have a leak

 

[Gern186]

Damn I came here to see a woman...

The tracer dye is a good starting point.

 

[Ohiosam]

400' bore should be one continous pipe. Only open on 2 ends

There’s at least 2 maybe 3 what I’d call junction boxes, it’s not continuous.

 

[giles]

There’s at least 2 maybe 3 what I’d call junction boxes, it’s not continuous.

I'd say your overflow is finding one of those boxes. I doubt they do anything about it

 

[giles]

County might be a better option for a fix.

 

[jagermeister]

I'd say your overflow is finding one of those boxes. I doubt they do anything about it

Agreed. Is there any code that actually says buried conduit must be watertight? I’d be willing to bet the majority of buried conduit has water in it at some point throughout the year.

 

[Ohiosam]

Agreed. Is there any code that actually says buried conduit must be watertight? I’d be willing to bet the majority of buried conduit has water in it at some point throughout the year.

My over flow runs in the ditch, it doesn’t go on the road. Their conduit is causing water to run on the road, if it gets icy and causes a wreck who do you think is liable.

 

[giles]

Agreed. Is there any code that actually says buried conduit must be watertight? I’d be willing to bet the majority of buried conduit has water in it at some point throughout the year.

No.

In this case, it is just doing what water does. I'm guessing one of the splice pits are in a spot that used to lay damp. It just moved that spot as it now has a 2" drain.

 

["J"]

My over flow runs in the ditch, it doesn’t go on the road. Their conduit is causing water to run on the road, if it gets icy and causes a wreck who do you think is liable.

Ultimately? Spectrum….

 

[jagermeister]

My over flow runs in the ditch, it doesn’t go on the road. Their conduit is causing water to run on the road, if it gets icy and causes a wreck who do you think is liable.

I never said anything is right or wrong. All I said is I agree with Dave in that I getting Spectrum to do something about it is going to be difficult.

 

[giles]

The ditch and keeping water/ice off the road should be county. Call them

 

[Jackalope]

No.

In this case, it is just doing what water does. I'm guessing one of the splice pits are in a spot that used to lay damp. It just moved that spot as it now has a 2" drain.

That would be my guess also. Somewhere water is running into a box that's uphill of this point.

 

[hickslawns]

Seems obvious one for the joints or the other end is getting water. Who does the liability fall upon would be my main concern as well.

 

[Ohiosam]

Seems obvious one for the joints or the other end is getting water. Who does the liability fall upon would be my main concern as well.

Since I’ve informed them they can’t deny knowing about the problem. And I’ve done my due diligence. I’m not overly concerned about my liability. I had no part in the installation, it was done in the right of way with county engineer’s approval. The water from my pond never comes down here because back 150 yards a crossover culvert takes it across the road. This in no way is the natural course of the water, it is being directed here by the conduit.