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WTB ISO: AKC Black Lab Male

bowhunter1023

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I've got a couple emails out to breeders recommended by @jagermeister, but wanted to solicit some help here as well. I'm looking to connect with a reputable breeder within 100-200 miles of Washington County. I prefer English bloodlines and am dead set on a black male as my next hunting dog. I'd like to have at least a deposit in by turkey season.

Any referrals are apprecaited!
 

giles

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We found our next pup out of Indiana. Should be about breeding season now for her dogs. I went 100% on looks and English decent. Never asked about hunting as I will likely never hunt him. I can ask her if you’d like?
 

bowhunter1023

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Funny how this worked out, but it's a roll of the dice I'm going to take...

One of the guys I hunt with has a chocolate female out of local AKC stock, which was seeded with some "high-dollar" genetics from elsewhere in the country. Overall, she's a pretty good dog and did well this hunting season, but it was rough sledding in the early years. Mainly due to lack of reprimand IMO. Her drive and instinct are unquestionable, she just needed a heavier hand than he typically uses. He's one of the nicest dudes you'll ever meet and it translates to his dog handling too. He was too light with her and it probably cost a year of development. Again, just my opinion.

Anyways... I ran into my buddy's MIL a few weeks ago and she told me my buddy's dog was pregnant and it was one of two fathers: a "mutt" or a registered chocolate. (Ironically, these dogs live near the farm as my buddy is a neighbor out there.)

Last night, the dogs arrived and it appears they're all lab. But unless my buddy does DNA testing, he can't register them, so he's just finding them good homes and the "buddy rate" is a fraction of a registered lab. The first puppy out ended up being a black male and he's the biggest puppy. Drew said he has a much bigger, boxier head than the others, and bigger paws. And it's mine at the moment.

I'm willing to roll the dice here given the mom's hunt drive and the reasonable determination of both my buddy and I that the pups are 100% lab. I'll neuter this pup and may still breed Lulu with my other buddy's stud hunting machine some day, but will cross that bridge later. Like I was texting Dave yesterday, I'm searching for a tool and this dog has that in his blood line based on mom alone. Just seems right given the whole scope of the story.

Stay tuned!
 

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triple_duece

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Just about every lab I’ve seen can be that champion caliber dog. The difference is usually the handler of the dog.

I never put in “worth” on lineage. I wanted parents that were working dogs, good temperament and looks, and size. When picking out a puppy it’s always a gamble of what they will finish like. By knowing and seeing the parents, the puppy is usually not much different. Remember “rabbits don’t make squirrels”.

Now for the high end dogs, if paying good money, you want the health certificates. If your going to invest good money, you want the best chance at a sound healthy dog. You also don’t want to continue bad traits if you plan on breeding. Puppy mills are the worst. Some “breeders” breed for money. In the end, do what’s best for you and pocket book.

I’ve never bought high end dogs. I haven’t had any big issues but did end up w skin problems and such.

Basically there is conformation bred dogs and field trial dogs. I don’t care for the ends of the spectrum and will try to find one in the middle of the road.

Again most dogs are the way they are do to the owners as for personality and training.

Hope this helps.

Also nothing wrong w owning a dog not registered. They can/will be great dogs w proper care.
 

jagermeister

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It's funny how stuff has a way of working out. Sounds like you've got a good lead, and some solid advice so far.

Not to throw a wrench in your plans on anything... But Betty started her heat cycle this past Friday and I'm considering having her bred. If I do, pups would be ready by end of June or first part of July. My wife and I are still discussing it so right now I'd say it's 50/50. I know you said you'd prefer English lines but I figured this was worth putting on your radar, just in case.

Dam
https://www.huntinglabpedigree.com/pedigree.asp?id=108149

Sire
https://www.huntinglabpedigree.com/studdog.asp?id=117546
 
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jagermeister

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Vandemore speaks the truth. BUT... His dogs also pick up more birds and hear more shots fired than arguably any other Labs on the planet... And there's no replacement for real world hunting repetitions when it comes to training a good meat dog. That guy will always have some of the best dogs ever, regardless of titles or lack thereof, for that simple fact.