Gun week total is down 8%

[Gern186]

there is no way in hell they are going to make up 50% of the harvest totals from here on out. that's crazy talk and everyone knows it.

Why do you say that.....so far we are talking 1932 deer killed in 7 days of hunting. That does not include the following....youth season (2 days of gun hunting), extra gun season (2 more days of gun hunting), muzzleloader (4 more days of gun hunting) and the ENTIRE bow season! That's 8 more days of gun hunting and a shitload of arrows flung at deer for 4 months......HOW is this crazy talk??

I watch the numbers from year to year in my county and I'm always amazed at the number of deer that are killed in addition to the gun season alone.

 

[tuffshot]

Late season, Gern
The extra 15 dollar tags have expired. Not much in the way of urban tags in Meigs Co.
Weather factor for bowhunters with a change in patterns for the deer after gun season.
2 day weekend coming up with quite a few less people moving the deer around on drives.
ML season even fewer.
Oh, and maybe less deer to hunt in the areas that are being hunted.

Sure are a lot of negetive veriables in play to make up the differance.

 

[mrex]

For the record, I think the statewide kill will be off a little this year...maybe 5% or so. I drive 1,200 miles a week with my job and I haven't seen the dead deer along the roads in the numbers of the past few years and I personally saw noticeably fewer deer when I hunted in the fall...which was OK with me.:smiley_arrogant:

However, that doesn't mean the deer aren't there. The areas I'm hunting didn't see any kind of massive die off or coyote explosion. They did see a mast crop of epic proportions.

 

[Gern186]

Late season, Gern
The extra 15 dollar tags have expired. Not much in the way of urban tags in Meigs Co.
Weather factor for bowhunters with a change in patterns for the deer after gun season.
2 day weekend coming up with quite a few less people moving the deer around on drives.
ML season even fewer.
Oh, and maybe less deer to hunt in the areas that are being hunted.

Sure are a lot of negetive veriables in play to make up the differance.

I believe you when you say there are less deer, but come on, you guys are still killing 3 to 4 times the amount of deer than in my county, and anybody that wants to kill a deer up here can get it done.

 

[Milo]

I believe you when you say there are less deer, but come on, you guys are still killing 3 to 4 times the amount of deer than in my county, and anybody that wants to kill a deer up here can get it done.

Yeah tuff you bunch a lazy dumbasses whats wrong with you guys....i mean anybody can do it....:smiley_confused_vra its all relative even if they aren't there...WTF

 

[formerbowhunter1023]

I believe you when you say there are less deer, but come on, you guys are still killing 3 to 4 times the amount of deer than in my county, and anybody that wants to kill a deer up here can get it done.

This is were ratios come in handy. Sure we are killing 4 times as many here in Washington County. But we are also 4 times the size with 4 times the hunters. (Not sure those are the numbers, but you see where I'm headed.) At the end of the day, if your county kills 1 deer per hunter and we kill .75 per hunter, we will still have higher kill numbers, but the ratio could point to worse hunting. Or hunters. You see what I am saying? Just because they generate more kills does not mean things are better or even as good...

 

[Beentown]

I believe you when you say there are less deer, but come on, you guys are still killing 3 to 4 times the amount of deer than in my county, and anybody that wants to kill a deer up here can get it done.

Apples and oranges. Completely different habitat, hunting style, and number of hunters.

Beentown

 

[Kaiser878]

I blame it on democrats!!!

 

[Gern186]

Apples and oranges. Completely different habitat, hunting style, and number of hunters.

Beentown

That's right, I would love to actually have some good sized woods to hunt........and wait I thought the number of hunters was declining?? I'm confused.

 

[rrr]

and I personally saw noticeably fewer deer when I hunted in the fall...which was OK with me.

Well good for fucking you. This might be beyond you but do you realize that seeing more deer equals more changes of killing a deer and killing a deer means food? I'm not going to put shit that's unfounded out there, but having lost the top income in the household completely this year it would not hurt for me to put a deer in the freezer for my family. This aint a sob story and there are millions worse that us - we aint that bad off - but still, damn it.

 

[Beentown]

That's right, I would love to actually have some good sized woods to hunt........and wait I thought the number of hunters was declining?? I'm confused.

Hmm that is news to me. I must have missed something??? Number of hunters are down???

Beentown

 

[huntn2]

So it has probably become apparent, I am a numbers guy...

I created a chart to show what "I" (this is only my calculations) project the Megis County numbers to be this year based on only the last 2 years data contained in the PDF jbrown linked to and the gun week numbers.



I am sure there are other factors that can and will impact these numbers. However. that said, the last two seasons the gun week accounted for 53% of the total harvest in Megis County (again according to the DNR's PDF that jbrown attached a link for). That means the total harvest this year should be approximately 3,644 based off the 1,932 killed numbers from gun week. For the rest of my chart, I simply allocated the numbers by weapon/season based off the average for each from the last 2 seasons.

Take it for what you want but if gun week is any indication of the totals for Megis this year, then the total harvest will be down 24%.

 

[Gern186]

This is were ratios come in handy. Sure we are killing 4 times as many here in Washington County. But we are also 4 times the size with 4 times the hunters. (Not sure those are the numbers, but you see where I'm headed.) At the end of the day, if your county kills 1 deer per hunter and we kill .75 per hunter, we will still have higher kill numbers, but the ratio could point to worse hunting. Or hunters. You see what I am saying? Just because they generate more kills does not mean things are better or even as good...

Since we were talking about Meigs county....the area is 432 sq miles and the population was just over 23,000 in the year 2000. Paulding county is almost identical in size and population with an area of 419 sq miles and 20,000 people, yet nearly 4 times the amount of deer are kilt in Meigs county on a yearly basis.

 

[Gern186]

Hmm that is news to me. I must have missed something??? Number of hunters are down???

Beentown

yep.

 

[Milo]

what are we arguing for arguments sake? please tell me your not comparing toldeo to galpolis...

 

[tuffshot]

For arguments sake, since we were talking about Meigs county....the area is 432 sq miles and the population was just over 23,000 in the year 2000. Paulding county is almost identical in size and population with an area of 419 sq miles and 20,000 people, yet nearly 4 times the amount of deer are kilt in Meigs county on a yearly basis.

Simple answer "More hunters"
Southern Ohio has been promoted as having a big deer population for years with big bucks.
Hunters come there from all over the state and out of state as well, doubt you can say that about your county.
Most just say that is where we have gone for years so that is where we are going again this year.

 

[Milo]

there are different kind of "farmers" in meigs county too..:smiley_bril:rotflmao

 

[Gern186]

what are we arguing for arguments sake? please tell me your not comparing toldeo to galpolis...

Fixed it.

Just showing Jesse that geographically the 2 counties were nearly the same in land area and population, nothing more. Obviously there is a shit ton more woods down in Meigs county.

Let me also point out that Paulding county is on the Indiana state line and not far from Michigan either, so there are plenty of non-residents hunting in this county.

 

[Beentown]

Nevermind this is simple to determine if you think about it. Southern and Eastern Ohio have more everything when it comes to deerz. More habitat, more public land, more hunters, more poachers, more.... Everywhere else just isn't the same.

Beentown

 

[jagermeister]

Did everybody read my post about the history of it all? I'll say it again... Since 1900, a decrease in the total harvest was ALWAYS preceeded by an increase the following year(s). Who gives a shit if the harvest is down this year? How the hell do you know it's not gonna skyrocket next year?