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I told y'all they would raise fees to maintain their revenue after slaughtering the population.
As for the argument of. "Deer numbers are still good because in 1961 you'd be lucky to see a deer" that's the same as if we said "everyone has to go back to dial up internet across the state, we're reducing speeds back like it was in 1993. Quit your bitchin about Aol dial-up, I remember a time when the internet didn't exist"
Or. " We are reducing the number of TV channels to the 10 you can get with bunny ears. Spoiled ass youngins with your 1000 channels, be lucky you get 10 now, back in the day we only had 3.
To say that something that's been decimated is still good because "it used to be far worse "is a ridiculous argument.
I know of a spot where I can shoot my limit on grouse. That doesn't mean our grouse hunting is still good.
I told y'all they would raise fees to maintain their revenue after slaughtering the population.
As for the argument of. "Deer numbers are still good because in 1961 you'd be lucky to see a deer" that's the same as if we said "everyone has to go back to dial up internet across the state, we're reducing speeds back like it was in 1993. Quit your bitchin about Aol dial-up, I remember a time when the internet didn't exist"
Or. " We are reducing the number of TV channels to the 10 you can get with bunny ears. Spoiled ass youngins with your 1000 channels, be lucky you get 10 now, back in the day we only had 3.
To say that something that's been decimated is still good because "it used to be far worse "is a ridiculous argument.
I know of a spot where I can shoot my limit on grouse. That doesn't mean our grouse hunting is still good.
Ohiosam
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seeings how you can't tell the difference between literal, sarcastic and metaphoric rhetoric, I don't think you are in good position to judge my intelligence or my character. grind your axe someplace else.
I'm sorry but Crawford County has fewer deer then Richland and probably more in line with Morrow County. There should be no way in hell be a 3 deer county. I'm glad they took away the doe tag for this next season but to keep a county that barely tags 1k deer a year in the company of double that is rediculousness.
yotehunter
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Didn't read the entire thread. Personally I like these revisions vs. last 2 years.
Edit - OK, I read the entire thread. Lots of valid points. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just don't let written word get out of context. We'll all never be happy, and the agenda will continue. Continue to be the squeaky wheel, adjust, or lie down. All I know is I can't wait to get back in the stand with a bow in my hand.
Edit - OK, I read the entire thread. Lots of valid points. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just don't let written word get out of context. We'll all never be happy, and the agenda will continue. Continue to be the squeaky wheel, adjust, or lie down. All I know is I can't wait to get back in the stand with a bow in my hand.
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haterz gonna hate, Joe. all the emoticons in the world won't change that. :biggrin: emoticons not very good at bridging generation gaps, either. that requires a knowledge of history and an understanding of facts, or at least a willingness to do so. usually one or the others is lacking in discourse such as this, often all three. :smiley_blameshift:
motorbreaker
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Fullbore
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I think the kids got a bum wrap with the date change. Personally, I like that the two day gun season was brought back. Mainly for those who couldn't hunt in the regular gun week. I also was hoping that the late muzzy was put back in the week between Christmas and New Year, but that will prolly never happen.
CritterGitterToo
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Proposals are horse shit. Hell my county is 4 fuggin deer. Tonk is an asshole. Pure plain and simple.
Fuggin farm bureau runs that whole fuggin show.
Bingo. Not surprisingly these proposed regs are just more smoke and mirrors from the DOW....
Right. When you break it down like a math problem, and look at things, this is completely backwards. They have proved to us time and time again that most hunters only take 1 deer. So changing bag limits does nothing. Opportunity is what kills deer!
As much as I hate to think about them cutting anything out of hunting seasons. I think the season needs to end after ML. I love late season hunting, but these deer need a break.
FYI, I hunt every season and don't want to loose any of them. The bigger picture just can't support what we have going though. Something has to give...
The only reason to bring back the bonus 2 day gun is to raise harvest numbers for next year to blow more smoke and make uneducated hunters think the herd grew and show the FB and insurance that hunters are killing more deer. I didn't like the bonus weekend the last time it was in place and I surly won't care for it this time around. At the end of the day it will just turn more hunters away imho. I think the total deer harvest will be over 180k next season only because of the added opportunity with firearms but if you took that away the numbers would be 20-25k less and would have been around 160k and that would be lower then this past season. Just because the total harvest number increases doesn't mean there was an increase in live deer all of a sudden.
I think it will pretty equal to this years numbers. Giving the "appearance" that they have stabilized the herd.
I also think that the only way we have to have a chance at turning this around, is to educate as many hunters as we can. It's pretty obvious that the small number of die hards aren't going to make a difference.
I don't think the numbers will equal out to this years total. I think this next years total will increase close to 20k over this past years because of the added gun weekend. I think the earlier youth season would be equal to the past years early muzzy numbers making it a wash but that added gun weekend will be higher then you think. Just think about that for a minute here. Your adding two more days of gun so that more people can hit the woods because they can't take off during the work week of regular gun season. Add in the fact this bonus weekend is made for adult hunters that are more proficient and can kill more deer. I say that in just those 2 days there will be 20-25k deer killed going just over a total of 180k for the season.
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yotehunter
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I agree 100% it will be detrimental. Unless the deer are not there to kill. Which in my area they are not here. Next years numbers will tell the story on the true numbers IMO.
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I just went into town to pick up some things for my bride. I spoke briefly with a man at the store about the new regulations. He thinks the reduced bag limits are great because he sees far less deer than he once did. "But most hunters aren't smart enough".... That rang in my ears, again. I'll give the DOW this; they are really, really good at passing along the right message to get the perception they hope for from the masses.
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This goes right to the now famous "10 deer in a woodlot" line of thinking. If there are 10 deer in a woodlot, you can kill 4 of them in three days, for example. If there are only 6 deer in a woodlot, you can still kill 4 of them if given a little more time to do it. Extend the seasons (add opportunity), and a higher percentage of the living deer will be killed.