Beans??

[Milo]

The difference between a $1200 dollar Hoyt and 90 dollar a bag soybeans is you can resell the Hoyt, you can't resell the soybean as they are wasted and not consumed because your tonnage is too high. With a 70 dollar a bag difference that's a lot of money thrown at nothing. We spend the money maximizing the regular beans which get over waist high for us and provide good browsing cover. I'm not a fan of deer sleeping in their food as that is where I'm trying to kill them at. If they are there when I want to get in the tree them I run them off and put he rest of the deer on high alert. Frank to answer your question on the pods, they stay closed well into February bit usually the winds and deer break th open. I agree with your comments on planting something different than what is in your area. We do that exact same thing.

 

[jagermeister]

Milo I can take you to a 4 acre field of eagle beans that is absolutely picked clean. Nothing was wasted there.

 

[motorbreaker]

We have been planting a 2.5 acre plot in the center of our property for about 5 years now. We plant 1.5 acres of rr beans and 1 acre of corn. The rr beans do pretty well as a forage in the early season, But come November we don't have a seed left in the plot, Corn or beans.
So for us its more important to get more bushels per acre. Are soil isn't the best, We proly get around 35 to 40 bushels per acre with the beans and Our corn makes around a 100 bpa. So the deer are eating 160 bushels of grain before November.
We do all of this work and spend the money to have zero food left when we realy need it.
This year we are going all out and are going to do 3 acres of corn and 2.5 acres of beans in the same area.
For us there is plenty of forage in the area, And beans are not a good forage by the time deer season starts, So were more into bushels per acre. I have no idea what eagle beans would produce per. acre on our property. But I think if we spent extra and used more lime and fertilizer to up our bpa it would still cost less then the eagle beans.
Like Milo said, Farmers usually have more seed then there going to use. So if your going to plant beans look up a farmer and bring some good feed bags. This is the cheapest way to do beans.
Were going to do a bean plot in another area this year where we cant get a planter so were going to have to broadcast them in. We will see how that goes.

 

[motorbreaker]

Milo I can take you to a 4 acre field of eagle beans that is absolutely picked clean. Nothing was wasted there.

jager, I don't know anything about eagle beans. From there site is says there beans stay green and are a good forage into the winter. Can you share your experience with this? Do the deer eat the forage thru the winter?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...sYGoCw&usg=AFQjCNEhiTOLx0qA9IBno3jZC6U9at_3gw

 

[jagermeister]

jager, I don't know anything about eagle beans. From there site is says there beans stay green and are a good forage into the winter. Can you share your experience with this? Do the deer eat the forage thru the winter?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...sYGoCw&usg=AFQjCNEhiTOLx0qA9IBno3jZC6U9at_3gw

I wouldn't say they stay green all through the winter but they definitely stay green much longer than traditional ag beans. I'd say they're green up until late October - early November. The deer will feed on them as long as they're green. Mid to late fall they don't seem to hit the bean pods that hard. But middle of winter, you can't keep them out of em. They will walk right past 10 acres of standing corn to get to the beans.

 

[Fullbore]

I might add TOO. I planted my RR beans and Lab Lab pretty dang late. I think it was around Memorial Day or so, maybe even early June. However, while all the other beans in my area were turning yellow, mine were dark green well into early bow season. Sure, they didn't yield as well as the farms around my place, but were attracting enough to pull most every deer around.

 

[jagermeister]

Here's a 5 acre eagle plot from February 2014. This picture was taken less than 24 hours after a fresh 3+ inches of snow. Deer from over a mile away were coming to this plot.

 

[motorbreaker]

When did you plant the eagle beans? And how many acres will a bag plant? I'd like to add that we rarely see any mature bucks until the end of oct. so I'm looking for a good food source from then until the end of gun season. Were looking to keep the does around to attract the bucks. But our food source has been gone by late oct. Beans and corn. Were planting more corn this year but its expensive to plant corn. $90 for a bag of eagle vs. $150 for a bag of corn. I think a bag of corn will plant about 1.5 acres though. But the fertilizer is expensive.
We plant our beans in early June. With a grain drill. Sorry for all the questions but I'm looking to get the most bang for my buck.

 

[jagermeister]

Plant late may to early June. Roughly one bag per acre if you drill... And up that by 20% or so if you broadcast them.

 

[MK111]

Clover is my main go to crop until freezing weather dries the clover up. Then the forage oats is the drawing crop through the winter. Just saying that with those 2 main food plot crops I have deer drawing food year around. Brassica is becoming a favorite fall-winter crop also. Plus there is the turnip tops and bulbs, radish and beet tops. In my case I seen no need for planting beans.
IMHO

 

[Milo]

Milo I can take you to a 4 acre field of eagle beans that is absolutely picked clean. Nothing was wasted there.

you just made my point. thanks

 

[jagermeister]

you just made my point. thanks

Forgive my ignorance but I don't understand. You stated that my expensive beans were not consumed, due to excessive tonnage, therefore they along with the money are wasted. I responded by saying a 4 acre field was obliterated and drew deer in from ridiculous distances. How exactly did I make your point? And why do you have such a problem with eagle soybeans? Have you ever planted them? I'm not telling anyone they're stupid for planting ag beans... All I've done is express my opinion that the eagle beans are a better product. Is that a problem?

 

[jagermeister]

Had to revive this thread with some pics. Pics taken today... Ag beans crispy and brown, eagle beans just barely starting to get a hint of yellow, but still mostly lush and green. Same planting date, same seeding rate, same fertilizer rate. Eagle beans are taller, bushier, and shown much more resilience to browsing.

 

[Bigslam51]

That's a good looking field right there!

 

[giles]

Is that plot the 10 acres it looks?

 

[giles]

With the corn.

 

[jagermeister]

Is that plot the 10 acres it looks?

Good guess. It's pretty damn close. 5 acres of beans and 4-5 of corn.

 

[giles]

That's pretty damn impressive. Do you harvest it in the spring or plow it under and start over? I've always been curious as to what they would yield in the spring.

 

[jagermeister]

That's pretty damn impressive. Do you harvest it in the spring or plow it under and start over? I've always been curious as to what they would yield in the spring.

There's usually a heck of a crop of volunteer beans in the spring. If we're planting it again we'll spray with 2-4d early on then till under.

 

[Boarhead]

Looks real good!