Looking at inlines , suggestions ?
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If I were purchasing again I would go smokeless. I have a TC Omega in stainless with Nikon Omega BDC scope. Used to carry it for gun season. I will carry my Savage 220 for gun season from here on out and save the Omega for muzzle loader season. Plenty of pain in the butt to keep clean and dial it in. Mine has given me plenty of frustration over the years.
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I have and use a few smokless MZ's, there is no doubt there are many advantages to smokeless over the in-lines shooting conventional powders but smokeless is not for everyone, it takes a lot more shooter involvement for load development and proper powder selections. Savage doesn't offer the smokeless MZ's any longer so you would have to find one on the used market or gun action sites or go for a custom build. That gets pretty pricey. A new composoite stock blue barrel savage goes for well over $1,000 on gunbroker,just crazy prices. One of the best lower cost options right now is an H&R 45.70 converted to a 45 cal smokeless MZ.
I set up a Remington 45 cal. 700 ML, converted to 209, with Blackhorn 209 2 years ago ( my first experience with Blackhorn) for my daughter-in-law and it is one sweet shooting gun. Clean, low recoil, fast and accurate. Most of my gun hunting for the last 20 years has been with MZ's and there is no way I would shoot anything now except BH209 if I didn't have my smokeless guns.
If we ever have a TOO MZ shoot get together I'll bring all of my MZ's, smokeless and otherwise, for anyone to shoot that wants to.
I set up a Remington 45 cal. 700 ML, converted to 209, with Blackhorn 209 2 years ago ( my first experience with Blackhorn) for my daughter-in-law and it is one sweet shooting gun. Clean, low recoil, fast and accurate. Most of my gun hunting for the last 20 years has been with MZ's and there is no way I would shoot anything now except BH209 if I didn't have my smokeless guns.
If we ever have a TOO MZ shoot get together I'll bring all of my MZ's, smokeless and otherwise, for anyone to shoot that wants to.
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Seems I read somewhere they were having ignition problems with that BH209???
Found it....
http://www.blackhorn209.com/specs/ignition-guidelines/
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From being in the reloading equipment business I've found most problems are self made. Even going a step further is that some people just can't do anything correct. As example 'if you can't tie your own shoes you have no business owning anything automatic'.
T/C Impact, with scope, can be found new in 300-350 range. I use Barnes EZ load in 250 gr, in front of 92 gr of Blackhorn 209 ignited with CCI shotgun primer. Tack driver, have shot up to 10 rounds with no cleaning patches and no problems (stopped at 10 b/c I was done). Cleanup with Hoppes...love this setup, especially for the price.
I guess no respect for Thompson Center Hawken or Renegade, anymore. I wish The ODNR would have have kept muzzy season to primitive weapons. I would like to see, Ohio open a 3 week season for flintlocks with patched ball to really make things primitive.
No one says you still can't use one. I prefer a weapon more accurate and user friendly. I don't think Ohio needs anymore seasons...
Joel
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I have a TC Hawken. I took it out a couple years ago but never got a shot with it.
x2 on what Giles said though. You can use a primitive muzzleloader during gun week, extended gun or muzzleloader if you want.
x2 on what Giles said though. You can use a primitive muzzleloader during gun week, extended gun or muzzleloader if you want.
Sorry but that is just a step backwards to service a special interest group. The gun society is a dying age and anything done to promote someone getting in to gun shooting or more important hunting is a good thing that has no place for special interest.
If flintlock hunters want a special hunt, group together and buy a piece of land and hunt with flintlocks only. Just leave the general hunting public alone.
I heard this same special interest shit at my gunclub when Clinton put in place the assault weapon ban. 'I shoot muzzleloaders or shotguns so the assault weapon ban doesn't bother me'. Can't put into print what I unloaded on the idiots. But it must have worked because I never heard it again. But I'm sure it went on behind my back.
Special interest BS has no place in the gun or hunting society.
I'm sorta done now, well at least to the next time.
Exactly. If you open up a 3 week season for patch and ball, every swinging dick will own one and it'll become a 3 week free for all. Fact of the matter is if you want to shoot one with a patch and ball, you have 13 days to do it already, so good luck.