Out of state hunters?

[Gunther]

I live near a lot of public hunting ground in Hocking county. I have noticed most of the out of state hunters are from Vermont. Just curious as to know if anyone else noticed anything similar. These folks are not bothering me but I just thought it unusual the past couple years all the out of state hunters are from the northeast.

 

[Bigslam51]

Ohio is the closest Midwest state to them. Since there's a booner behind every tree here it only makes sense. At the TOO muzzy hunt I counted 4 out of state trucks, 3 from new Hampshire and one from north Carolina.

 

[bowhunter1023]

Ohio is the closest Midwest state to them. Since there's a booner behind every tree here it only makes sense. At the TOO muzzy hunt I counted 4 out of state trucks, 3 from new Hampshire and one from north Carolina.

And Michigan.

The only hunters from Ohio seen that day were the TOOzers there hunting. Back in November, I drove AEP several times. Out if state hunters out numbered Ohio hunters 4 to 1 based on license plate count, with Vermont having the most people and Florida a close second. It's out of control...

 

[Bigslam51]

And Michigan.

The only hunters from Ohio seen that day were the TOOzers there hunting. Back in November, I drove AEP several times. Out if state hunters out numbered Ohio hunters 4 to 1 based on license plate count, with Vermont having the most people and Florida a close second. It's out of control...

Did every pull off have a truck parked?

 

[bowhunter1023]

Did every pull off have a truck parked?

Just about. I'll give the NR hunters this. I had 3 spots picked out on a map. NR in all 3. At least some good scouting going on. LOL

 

[Bigslam51]

Just about. I'll give the NR hunters this. I had 3 spots picked out on a map. NR in all 3. At least some good scouting going on. LOL

That's messed up

 

[bowhunter1023]

Here's what's really fucked up... in my own county (Washington) I county more trucks from out of state during the gun seasons in obvious "hunting related" pull offs than in state trucks. Now I understand a lot of guys hunt their own stuff, so the numbers are not completely representative of the truth, but it tips it's hat at what's really going on. I'm willing to bet more non-land owning NR hunters hunt Ohio than non-land owning resident hunters hunt here.

 

[Gunther]

The crazy thing is that I have never been dicked up on public ground during bow season with other hunters, but at least once a year I have issues with trespassers on my own property while in the the stand

 

[Spencie]

The crazy thing is that I have never been dicked up on public ground during bow season with other hunters, but at least once a year I have issues with trespassers on my own property while in the the stand

That truly sucks! This is the reason I will die in prison.

 

[Boarhead]

Joe are the trespassers from out of state or locals?

 

[Carpn]

I've noticed from mid Oct on that resident hunters are the minority on public lands . NR outnumber residents by 4 to 1 or more . I noticed a lot less hunters tho this yr on the larger public areas most likely due to the reduction of deer on Ohio's public lands .

 

[Gunther]

Trespassers are locals

 

[the Lackster]

In georgia we have the same scenario. Mostly Florida and north Carolina hunters. Many come and fill there 12 deer bag limit and lease up every stretch of land available. Actually had to get assistance from the gdub this year catching a guy for me. Takes a low down individual to sit in your stand and put out bait on your land while your are working in a maximum security prison trying to keep people safe. Then have the nerve to write a letter asking for permission to hunt after being caught. Guy didn't even have license either.

 

[finelyshedded]

In georgia we have the same scenario. Mostly Florida and north Carolina hunters. Many come and fill there 12 deer bag limit and lease up every stretch of land available. Actually had to get assistance from the gdub this year catching a guy for me. Takes a low down individual to sit in your stand and put out bait on your land while your are working in a maximum security prison trying to keep people safe. Then have the nerve to write a letter asking for permission to hunt after being caught. Guy didn't even have license either.

Wow, now that's sad! Sorry you have to put up with that!

 

[the Lackster]

Wow, now that's sad! Sorry you have to put up with that!

Yea bad thing is how easy you get off down here. His ticket was probably 2 or 3 hundred dollars. Game warden stood there and told me I wasn't done with that guy. Thanks for nothing. That's every state tho. I hunt other states but you can bet your life that I obey game laws, I respect the land, I respect the locals, and I respect the animals. That's the only way to be the way I see it.

 

["J"]

Wow.... That's some messed up stuff right there..... Don't understand what goes through people's mind when they do this stuff....

 

[Lundy]

From ODNR 2014 2015 season summary

Non-resident hunters accounted for 11% of the deer per-
mits issued and 8% and 12% of the total and buck harvests,
respectively, in the 2014-15 season. Eighteen percent of the
non-resident harvest (2,659 deer) was taken on public land, which is more than twice the rate of the resident public land harvest (8%). The non-resident harvest was 56% antlered. By comparison, the resident harvest was only 36% antlered. The top 5 non-resident states (total harvest) were Pennsyl- vania (2,652), Michigan (1,504), West Virginia (1,285), North Carolina (971), and Florida (941). Among the states taking at least 100 deer, those harvesting the most bucks as a per- centage of their total harvest were New Jersey (75%), Mary- land (73%), West Virginia (67%), Michigan (66%), and New York (64%). Non-residents that were most likely to harvest an antlerless deer were from Canada (70%), Indiana (60%), New Hampshire (58%), Maine (58%), and Florida (58%). The counties with the largest proportion of their harvests attrib- utable to non-residents were Adams (19.9%), Athens (19.2%), Pike (19.1%), Morgan (18.5%), and Meigs (17.5%). Putnam
(0.4%), Lake (0.8%), Miami (1.2%), Summit (1.3%), and San-
dusky (1.4%) had the lowest non-resident harvests.

More than half (62%) of the non-resident harvest occurred
during archery season, with the gun and muzzleloader sea- sons accounting for an additional 28% and 9%, respective- ly. Non-residents took a larger percentage of their harvest during archery season than either residents or landowners. Seventy percent of the antlered and 53% of the antlerless deer harvested by non-residents was taken during archery season

 

[giles]

From ODNR 2014 2015 season summary

Non-resident hunters accounted for 11% of the deer per-
mits issued and 8% and 12% of the total and buck harvests,
respectively, in the 2014-15 season. Eighteen percent of the
non-resident harvest (2,659 deer) was taken on public land, which is more than twice the rate of the resident public land harvest (8%). The non-resident harvest was 56% antlered. By comparison, the resident harvest was only 36% antlered. The top 5 non-resident states (total harvest) were Pennsyl- vania (2,652), Michigan (1,504), West Virginia (1,285), North Carolina (971), and Florida (941). Among the states taking at least 100 deer, those harvesting the most bucks as a per- centage of their total harvest were New Jersey (75%), Mary- land (73%), West Virginia (67%), Michigan (66%), and New York (64%). Non-residents that were most likely to harvest an antlerless deer were from Canada (70%), Indiana (60%), New Hampshire (58%), Maine (58%), and Florida (58%). The counties with the largest proportion of their harvests attrib- utable to non-residents were Adams (19.9%), Athens (19.2%), Pike (19.1%), Morgan (18.5%), and Meigs (17.5%). Putnam
(0.4%), Lake (0.8%), Miami (1.2%), Summit (1.3%), and San-
dusky (1.4%) had the lowest non-resident harvests.

More than half (62%) of the non-resident harvest occurred
during archery season, with the gun and muzzleloader sea- sons accounting for an additional 28% and 9%, respective- ly. Non-residents took a larger percentage of their harvest during archery season than either residents or landowners. Seventy percent of the antlered and 53% of the antlerless deer harvested by non-residents was taken during archery season

It's about time they start paying for that public land use.

 

[reo]

Also from the ODNR 2014 2015 season summary

In 2001, half of Ohio’s resident hunters spent some time on public land. In 2012, less than one-third of those contacted indicated that they had spent some time on public lands. However, over the same time period, complaints of crowded conditions on our public lands have escalated. Part of the reason for the discrepancy may be due to hunters that are not represented in our annual deer hunter surveys – non-residents. Though non-resident license sales were down 4% this year from the peak in 2012, there were still 37,807 hunting licenses sold, a 177% increase since 2001. Given this sharp increase in the number of non-resident hunting licenses, coupled with the fact that non-residents accounted for 20% or more of the public land harvest in eight of the top 10 public land counties......

 

[the Lackster]

Also from the ODNR 2014 2015 season summary

In 2001, half of Ohio’s resident hunters spent some time on public land. In 2012, less than one-third of those contacted indicated that they had spent some time on public lands. However, over the same time period, complaints of crowded conditions on our public lands have escalated. Part of the reason for the discrepancy may be due to hunters that are not represented in our annual deer hunter surveys – non-residents. Though non-resident license sales were down 4% this year from the peak in 2012, there were still 37,807 hunting licenses sold, a 177% increase since 2001. Given this sharp increase in the number of non-resident hunting licenses, coupled with the fact that non-residents accounted for 20% or more of the public land harvest in eight of the top 10 public land counties......

I feel like dropping non residents to a 1 deer bag limit and keeping residents as they are would have a positive impact on the deer population as well as decreasing the number of non resident hunters. This would cut out alot of neighboring states that come do there slaying on ohio grounds.