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2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)

Jackalope

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South Korea is doing a fantastic job at testing and getting good data. Actually far better than our own CDC. We still need to be cautious of the initial numbers because we don't know how those 200k are going to play out. When you dragnet a large population it greatly increases the detection rate, but it's still too early to divide in the fatality rate be ause those 200k have yet to play out. Being a pretty advanced math, science, and engineering country I am sure they're doing the appropriate data modeling but it'll be a couple weeks still until we have viable result numbers.
 

Jackalope

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Ohio 1 of 6 states that does not have the facility to test for the virus - have to send test samples out of state

I trolled the Ohio Department of Health yesterday on Twitter over that very subject.

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Geezer II

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PUBLISHED March 4, 2020
Coronavirus testing kits are set to arrive in Ohio in a few days and should be ready to test Ohioans for coronavirus, also called COVID-19, by next week.

The current process is for hospitals to send potential coronavirus samples to the Ohio Department of Health (ODH), which then sends the samples to one of two out-of-state labs run by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

That process takes five to seven days.

With in-state testing, ODH Spokeswoman Melanie Amato said the process will be shortened to 24-48 hours — a critical time frame for preventing the spread of the virus and treating the patient.

“We have never been a priority state due to the fact that we don’t have an airport that these travelers were coming in,” Amato said. “We weren’t a high priority to get this testing kits to begin with.”

The CDC is only sending testing kits to labs run by state health departments right now, not those run by local hospitals or other entities, Amato said.

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Jackalope

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I guess our multiple international airports don't count......

They are so full of shit. How about Mississippi, Montana, little dink ass Rhode Island, none of them have international airports and have far smaller population sizes. The CDC allowed state department of health labs to create their own tests as long as they could prove that the tests were accurate. Once they have proven this to the CDC they are allowed to test and declare "presumptive positive" results, with final confirmed positive results only being allowed from the CDC. While this step will not require Ohio to send samples to a CDC lab, Ohio is still relying on the availability of CDC test kits instead of testing for it themselves.

On Wednesday the CDC removed from their daily report the column for how many samples were awaiting testing from their daily report. Now it only show how many have been tested and if they were positive or negative.
 

Jackalope

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The reality is this is a massive failure of our CDC and state health departments who were massively unprepared for a viral pandemic. We are fortunate that this isn't MERS or 34% of this country would be dead in the next few months.

Our viral statistics don't match that of any other country. We have 233 cases and 14 deaths. That means we either have a 6% fatality rate, or we have a large population of undetected infections. The rate of occasional detection in new cities and states suggests that this virus in spreading through communities largely undetected.

I have honestly wondered if this is not on purpose to reduce impact to the economy and not promote panic. We know that 80% of people who get this will have a mild case. I think the CDC has taken the position of "The majority of Americans are going to get this, but we can't say that without causing panic, so let's pretend that we're doing all that we can. In the meantime most of them will just think they got the flu or a cold. For the 20% that seek treatment we'll deal with them, test them, and make it look like we kept most people from getting it" this also carries a huge economic benefit. People who think they only have a cold or the flu are more likely to go to work, they're not being isolated and told to stay home by employers who fear office contamination, they're not clogging up our hospitals demanding early treatment because they know they have covid, GDP can maintain.

Seriously I think that's the decision that's been made at this point. Don't panic the sheep, deal with it as it happens.
 

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If it's truly no more deadly than the flu, just more contagious, I'm not mad at that play by CDC. Not happy with it and there's still a massive failure on their part in all of this, but killing the economy as an overreaction hurts worse in the long run in this layman's eyes.
 

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They are so full of shit. How about Mississippi, Montana, little dink ass Rhode Island, none of them have international airports and have far smaller population sizes. The CDC allowed state department of health labs to create their own tests as long as they could prove that the tests were accurate. Once they have proven this to the CDC they are allowed to test and declare "presumptive positive" results, with final confirmed positive results only being allowed from the CDC. While this step will not require Ohio to send samples to a CDC lab, Ohio is still relying on the availability of CDC test kits instead of testing for it themselves.

On Wednesday the CDC removed from their daily report the column for how many samples were awaiting testing from their daily report. Now it only show how many have been tested and if they were positive or negative.

Hard to figure - well shit Kelly Ann Conway said on the news "we have the virus contained "
 

Jackalope

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If it's truly no more deadly than the flu, just more contagious, I'm not mad at that play by CDC. Not happy with it and there's still a massive failure on their part in all of this, but killing the economy as an overreaction hurts worse in the long run in this layman's eyes.

Its 20-30 times more deadly than the flu. .1 versus 2-3%
 
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