Lack Of Ohio Deer....

[Fletch]

On the way out to Illinois last Thurs. I stopped to check out a 140 acre piece that I could of leased... Property was 90 % woods... 2 fields which were corn last year were also present... Property was located on Stark/Carrol border... Property was void of deer signs... One set of tracks in 2 corn fields... No trails or rubs... What the hell, fantastic looking area, but not for $30 an acre with no deer...

 

[giles]

We need more threads like this.

I watched a YouTube video this morning that had a guy self filming on public land SE Ohio. He kept repeating himself on how much the pressure has increased this year. Well, continue to make videos talking about it...maybe next year you will have yourself completely pushed out.

 

[Westdesign03]

Maybe it was super pressured or has a heavy pack of coyotes in the area. Are the woods very open with mostly canopy trees? If so maybe there’s not enough cover for them to feel secure in. Any water sources near by? Also could be a factor. Just some ideas.


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[Fletch]

Maybe it was super pressured or has a heavy pack of coyotes in the area. Are the woods very open with mostly canopy trees? If so maybe there’s not enough cover for them to feel secure in. Any water sources near by? Also could be a factor. Just some ideas.


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Corn fields were very muddy and yote tracks would of shown, woods very very thick with under growth and there was a water source... If they herded up for the winter elsewhere, where were the rubs and trails from last fall???

 

[Cogz]

@Fletch
Did you walk the whole property?

 

[Stressless]

Either Hunting, Predation, Disease or Food. Grew up in Stark, Buddy has a farm in Carroll. Both are Overrun with deer. They will be there if the four elements aren't. IF the land is a good value - and you manage it - they will crush it. Remember Whitetail Deer were exterminated in all of OHIO by 1904 by hunting pressure, one poacher with a night scope and suppressed rifle could do that in that the small area you mentioned.... https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Ohio%27s_State_Mammal_-_White-tailed_Deer

 

[Cogz]

We need more threads like.

Well, continue to make videos talking about it...maybe next year you will have yourself completely pushed out.

first sentence - is that sarcasm or are you suggesting it needs discussion?
Last sentence - what do you mean?

 

[giles]

first sentence - is that sarcasm or are you suggesting it needs discussion?
Last sentence - what do you mean?

Seems people only ever want to talk about how great things are. People search Ohio for big dreams and high hopes. When in reality, Ohio is made up of pockets of deer.


The guys had hunted the same area multiple years and made YouTube videos about how awesome it was. Plastering his videos on the web. Now he’s upset because people are all over his spots and seems clueless as to why. He has pushed himself out of his local public honey holes. Over a little bit of YouTube fame.

 

[Fletch]

@Fletch
Did you walk the whole property?

Probably 75% of it.

 

[Cogz]

@giles thats very well said.

@Fletch theyre holed in that 25%

 

[Fletch]

@giles thats very well said.

@Fletch theyre holed in that 25%

Yup.... Probably....

 

[jagermeister]

I find this pretty hard to believe. There’s got to be more than meets the eye, like pressure or extreme disturbance. Stark and Carroll counties have some of the highest deer densities in the state.

 

[LonewolfNopack]

I don't find it hard to believe at all. My job has me walking several dozen new properties a year which equals thousands of acres of private land. I would say that maybe 25% of them have a large amount of deer sign. These are the areas that are highly managed and one or two pepple control a large area. The other 75% are littered with trees stands and deer sign very scarce. As mentioned earlier in this thread, Ohios deer population is very pocketed, with 90% of the deer in 25% of the area. If I didn't live in Ohio it would be very low on the list of "Big Buck" states that I would travel to for hunting unless I had access to a large highly managed area. Too many fragmented and small farms in Ohio for over all good private land management, and our public land hunting generally leaves much to be desired.

 

[Fletch]

I believe this piece probably is a free for all as the land owner doesn't know who's hunting it.... There were some stands on it...

 

[Cogz]

I believe this piece probably is a free for all as the land owner doesn't know who's hunting it.... There were some stands on it...

How that ever happens is beyond me...

 

[Sgt Fury]

I thought there was a booner behind every tree in Stark county!?

 

[Cogz]

I thought there was a booner behind every tree in Stark county!?

*in every tree. @Fletch forgot to look up

 

["J"]

*in every tree. @Fletch forgot to look up

They’ve adjusted their patterns....

 

[giles]

Sloppy hunters sure can mess a place up quickly. And if the property owner doesn’t know who’s hunting it now, you did yourself a favor by not seeing what you wanted. Who knows how many people you would’ve been sharing the place with.

 

[Cogz]

None if I’m paying $30/acre. There would be some strict enforcement from the landowner including signage.