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Sad. EMS services have to make tough decisions about survivability every day. You never think that it would apply to critical care services at hospitals though. Yet another reason why we need to slow this down as much as possible.
2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)
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Sad. EMS services have to make tough decisions about survivability every day. You never think that it would apply to critical care services at hospitals though. Yet another reason why we need to slow this down as much as possible.
It’s just a triage decision making process. Makes sense from a medical standpoint but sucks for the old folks whom it’ll effect negatively.
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Huh. Seems like I've heard this somewhere before. Not just good advice for old people, but everyone.
"Older Americans, especially those with underlying health conditions, should stockpile supplies and avoid unnecessary travel, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Monday."
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...r-60-should-stock-up-on-supplies-avoid-crowds
"Older Americans, especially those with underlying health conditions, should stockpile supplies and avoid unnecessary travel, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Monday."
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...r-60-should-stock-up-on-supplies-avoid-crowds
I'll be honest, most of my stockpiling was done for everyone but me. I have a sickly mother and sickly FIL. Shit gets too deep and I'll have to manage them, too.
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Unfortunately unless our government seriously steps up testing and mandatory quarantine measures that's exactly the road we're on in very short order.
Italy locked down the entire country today. Travel for critical work and services, medical treatment, and necessary supplies is all that's allowed. If they catch you out fucking off you can get 3 months in jail. The military is blocking major travel routes between cities. All tourist attractions, museums, ski slopes, etc are closed. Restaurants and pubs close at 6 and a mandatory 3 foot social distance for seating is enforced. All passenger airline and international travel in or out is prohibited. The quarantine is set until early April. This isn't a kneejerk reaction based one fear and panic. This is a country gripped in the midst of a pandemic. It would be extremely pompous and arrogant of us as Americans to somehow believe we will magically fare better so as not to require such actions.
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Infection wise just a couple weeks. Since they're considerably smaller land mass I see it happening here in more localized outbreaks and escalating to more and more cities then interconnecting. I think we'll see it in the most logical places first like Washington, California, and New York. I do not see our government enacting mass quarantine and home restrictions like Itally has done. We will however close schools, daycares, arenas and other areas of mass gathering. Government buildings will close, Congress at the federal and state levels will close. Places like WPAFB will close except to military personnel. I don't see mandatory military enforced quarantined of large areas because we love our big business and economy. The government will however take over a number of hotels in populated areas and use them as makeshift hospitals/recovery centers. I think we will always be one step behind what we should have done a couple of weeks before. Our lack of testing and aggressive contact tracing is a key indicator that we are not being proactive enough. The worse we let it get before action means the more aggressive we have to be to get it under control. It's going to be a royal shitstorm in the next 30 days.
We finally took it seriously today after I went off in our leadership meeting last week because someone essentially quoted the infographic shared earlier that I criticized. A few on our staff laughed it off as more fake news and media hysteria. I effectively silenced the room and challenged the rest of the team to get serious and not allow their personal views to jeopardize the health of our staff and students. Most of today was spent in meetings developing plans and taking the first steps towards implementing solutions to mitigate the fallout from a forced shutdown. I wasn't privy to the behind the scenes convo since this is my last week, but it was good to see them take my words of warning seriously.
Love this doctor. He does informational and comedy bits in regards to healthcare. Some of what he says echoes Joe. Most of it is common sense. He is good to watch. Some of his other vids crack me up. My wife shared them with me. She is in the medical field and watches most of his stuff.
Not posting to argue. I don't need that. BUT. . .I feel the fear mongering is out of control. Statistics (albeit limited because it is somewhat new) show this slightly more contagious than the flu. Slightly higher death rate.
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Good stuff Jesse. Failing to plan is planning to fail. What's going on in Italy and south Korea isn't fake news. It's real. Entire countries being shuttered. China threw their economy to the wind and implemented very harsh measures to attempt to contain it. A virus knows no race, color, political party, or national boundary.
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No need to argue. It's twice as contagous as the flu. With an R0 value of 1.4 to 4.0 with most agreeing on an average R2.5 and the flu is an R1.3. Meaning a single flu patient will infect 1.3 people, and single COVID will infect 1.4 to 4. Think of everyone you know that's had the flu this year and double it. And that is with 52% of Americans having been vaccinated. There isn't a vaccine for COVID so take that number and double it again. That's the expected rate for infection. Even if it was just as deadly as the flu shear infection rates alone would make the death rate 4x the seasonal flu. Unfortunatly, the flu has an overall mortality rate of .1% (that's point one percent.) Covid has been shown to have a mortality rate anywhere between 2-4.8% depending on available services. The WHO puts it at 3.4%. That makes COVID 20-48 times more deadly than the flu.
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IS A RECESSION COMMING??????
Asking for a friend?????
Feel my family and friends are safe for now and trying to make this my bitch and make good on it....
Asking for a friend?????
Feel my family and friends are safe for now and trying to make this my bitch and make good on it....
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An example of how much of a shit show this is. If we don't test then the virus doesn't exist right, numbers stay low and we can pretend like it's not a big deal.
"SEATTLE, March 9 (Reuters) - The Seattle-area nursing home at the epicenter of one of the biggest coronavirus outbreaks in the United States said on Monday it had no kits to test 65 employees showing symptoms of the respiratory illness that has killed at least 13 patients at the long-term care center."
https://news.trust.org/item/20200309234801-s0bah
"SEATTLE, March 9 (Reuters) - The Seattle-area nursing home at the epicenter of one of the biggest coronavirus outbreaks in the United States said on Monday it had no kits to test 65 employees showing symptoms of the respiratory illness that has killed at least 13 patients at the long-term care center."
https://news.trust.org/item/20200309234801-s0bah
it's the POTUS' job to "insure domestic tranquility" isn't it? or would you prefer he work harder at inducing panic?
nothing slows this virus spread down better than personal responsibility and the application of common sense and awareness to our daily lives in our response to the dangers of being exposed. this needs to be taken seriously, but damn, some of the posting here is coming dangerously close to fear mongering, which isn't necessary, imo.
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