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hickslawns

hickslawns

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Your projected stats are flawed Joe. Just don't feel like arguing. Nobody wins.

Wash your hands ya filthy animals. If ya got a sniffle or cough or fever. . .stay home.

I'm going to keep listening to health officials and ignore the media. No need to fear monger.

Can't trust the politicians either. Someone yelled "big virus!" All the politicians heard was the printing press getting warmed up. It's a big money grab. Politicians love a reason to deficit spend.
 
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hickslawns said:
Your projected stats are flawed Joe. Just don't feel like arguing. Nobody wins.

Wash your hands ya filthy animals. If ya got a sniffle or cough or fever. . .stay home.

I'm going to keep listening to health officials and ignore the media. No need to fear monger.

Can't trust the politicians either. Someone yelled "big virus!" All the politicians heard was the printing press getting warmed up. It's a big money grab. Politicians love a reason to deficit spend.
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No need to argue. As I said the scientific community puts this at being twice as contagous as the flu, and at a minimum 20 times more deadly. The flu has an infection rate of around 20% of Americans on any given year, and that's with 52% vaccinated. Without a vaccine it would be around 40%. Double that since it's twice as contagious. That's where they're getting their projected infection rates of 40-80% for covid.
 
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Jamie

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what I don't quite understand is how do these statistics account for all of the people (likely young people) who contract this virus but are asymptomatic, or have such mild symptoms that they don't even know they are infected and just get well and never get tested or diagnosed? that number could probably be in the 10's or 100's of thousands by now. seems like being able to include them, or at least estimating that number, would dramatically lower the death rate.
 
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Jamie said:
what I don't quite understand is how do these statistics account for all of the people (likely young people) who contract this virus but are asymptomatic, or have such mild symptoms that they don't even know they are infected and just get well and never get tested or diagnosed? that number could probably be in the 10's or 100's of thousands by now. seems like being able to include them, or at least estimating that number, would dramatically lower the death rate.
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Right. But couldn’t the same be said for the seasonal flu? I’m sure there are tens of thousands of people who get it mildly, recover, and never get diagnosed. They difference may be that since they have such a huge amount of data for seasonal flu, that they’re able to model its infection rate and death rate much more accurately than covid19.
 
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Jamie said:
what I don't quite understand is how do these statistics account for all of the people (likely young people) who contract this virus but are asymptomatic, or have such mild symptoms that they don't even know they are infected and just get well and never get tested or diagnosed? that number could probably be in the 10's or 100's of thousands by now. seems like being able to include them, or at least estimating that number, would dramatically lower the death rate.
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Your right but you Can't manage what you can't measurer
 
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Don't seem like we know what to do with this virus in the USA - feds are let n each state deal up their own plan and every state is screaming about the shortage of test kits - wth - wheres jamie and joe when ya need them - wtf we doing
 
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Dannmann801

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Today was different at lunch –
I have been going to different stores/grocery stores/Sams at lunch pretty much every day for the past 3 weeks.
Sometimes buying things, sometimes not, always observing.
When the first reports of panic buying came out I wasn’t seeing it. But at first masks were out of stock, then sanitizer, then TP started moving.
Was still seeing plenty of water and food.
But today was different – I went to Sam’s to get gas, and was surprised that the store lot was very full, more cars than I’d ever seen before, even on a Saturday.
Didn’t need anything, but went in anyway. Lady at the door was announcing list of items they were out of – TP, papertowels, sanitizer, Clorox wipes, rice, etc. Fuckin’ trippy.
But there is still plenty of food available.
So I stopped at DrugMart to pick something up on the way back to the office – and there were multiple people there in line with toilet paper.

The vibe is definitely changing. I was planning on waiting until the weekend to fill up on some milk/bread/eggs, but gonna do that tonite instead now.

Wife works in a nursing home – today she was told to pack a bag and keep in the car – if she’s there when any of the residents get diagnosed, they drop the quarantine hammer and she’ll be there for a couple of weeks.

And from talking to others, I get a sense that "preparedness" is finally gaining some respect, and some converts.
But there are still people who aren't taking it seriously.
 
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Dannmann801 said:
Today was different at lunch –
I have been going to different stores/grocery stores/Sams at lunch pretty much every day for the past 3 weeks.
Sometimes buying things, sometimes not, always observing.
When the first reports of panic buying came out I wasn’t seeing it. But at first masks were out of stock, then sanitizer, then TP started moving.
Was still seeing plenty of water and food.
But today was different – I went to Sam’s to get gas, and was surprised that the store lot was very full, more cars than I’d ever seen before, even on a Saturday.
Didn’t need anything, but went in anyway. Lady at the door was announcing list of items they were out of – TP, papertowels, sanitizer, Clorox wipes, rice, etc. Fuckin’ trippy.
But there is still plenty of food available.
So I stopped at DrugMart to pick something up on the way back to the office – and there were multiple people there in line with toilet paper.

The vibe is definitely changing. I was planning on waiting until the weekend to fill up on some milk/bread/eggs, but gonna do that tonite instead now.

Wife works in a nursing home – today she was told to pack a bag and keep in the car – if she’s there when any of the residents get diagnosed, they drop the quarantine hammer and she’ll be there for a couple of weeks.

And from talking to others, I get a sense that "preparedness" is finally gaining some respect, and some converts.
But there are still people who aren't taking it seriously.
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Good observations. Definitely think some of the people I know (moslty FB) that have been the don't overreact, I'm not going to become a prepper type are having second thoughts. Everything we have done has been with the idea we will eat/use it at some point so why not just have it at home and ready just in case. You have to have the $$ to do something like that though, my in-laws are in that boat. We are helping with what we can and my wife is planning to help get them set for a couple weeks tonight. Hope your wife never has to be quarantined Dan, nursing homes aren't a good situation though. My step-mom is one that could be affected that way as well.
 
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