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Denny
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Here are the official Coronavirus guidelines:

1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.

2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.

3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.

4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.

5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.

6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.

7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.

8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.

9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.

10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…

11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..

12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it's better not to go out, well, but no…

13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don't go to parks or walk. But don’t sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).

14. You can't go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.

15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.

16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?

17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with "I don't want to trigger panic, but…"

18. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.

19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don't live under the same roof.

20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.

21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.

22. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.

23. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of…

24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).

25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?
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A little humor can go a long ways towards health....

Have a great rest of the day folks!
 

Jackalope

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I suppose this goes right out the window now.


Source: https://www.varonis.com/blog/hipaa-compliance/
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'New order will give 911 dispatchers names and addresses of COVID-19 patients'

Ohio's Health Director Dr. Amy Acton announced that 911 dispatchers will be given the addresses and names of people who test positive for the coronavirus.

Tuesday, April 14th 2020, 9:40 PM EDT by Danielle Cotterman
Updated: Tuesday, April 14th 2020, 9:41 PM EDT

In a new order aimed at keeping first-responders safe, Ohio's Health Director Dr. Amy Acton announced that 911 dispatchers will be given the addresses and names of people who test positive for the coronavirus. The information will be kept confidential but will allow first-responders to be prepared when responding to homes.

"They normally think I go out, I take care of a patient, and then I go back home at the end of my shift and I'm done. Now in the back of their mind, these men and women now have the thought 'What if I get exposed?' explained President and CEO of Lane Life Trans Paramedic Ambulance, Joseph Lane.

The new order requires health departments to provide 911 centers with the names and addresses of positive COVID-19 patients.

For EMS workers, like those with Lane Life Trans Paramedic Ambulance, this gives them the heads up to fully equip themselves in personal protective equipment. It also gives them a heads-up to use an ambulance that is specifically designed for COVID-19 patients.

"They're lined in the back with almost a plastic liner in the back, so they're easily cleaned after," said Lane.

For police, being fully dressed in PPE for every call isn't a reality. And while dispatchers currently ask if anyone at the home has flu-like symptoms or COVID symptoms. Boardman's Police Chief Todd Werth said that information isn't always relayed by the caller.

"Unfortunately when people are calling 911 there in a traumatic situation they have a lot going on," explained Werth.

This order is an extra layer of protection for all first-responders.

In Trumbull County, the 911 Director Ernie Cook said placing an alert on addresses with positive cases is something they've already been doing and working with the health department to update the list on a daily basis.

"We were one of the first counties out there to do it, almost all counties have been doing it for a while," said Cook.

State leaders said the order will help provide consistency across the state.

Source: https://www.wfmj.com/clip/15047076/...hers-names-and-addresses-of-covid-19-patients

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"Most all county's' have been doing this for sometime" - Hmmm,,, sometime, huh? I suppose it's all in the sake of safety now, but for whom?

Why shouldn't everyone have that information if it's for the sake of safety?

Wouldn't/Aren't each public servant treating any/all strangers as if they were infected? Wouldn't that be considered a wise thing to do, or 'best practice', especially at the present time? That's what I would do if I was a public servant. That approach would make perfectly good sense to me.

Anyhow,,, I'm not on board with this new order.

An actual list with personal unique identifiers, such as specific health diagnoses and/or other forms of specific identification that will be roaming around within the state's systems for whomever deemed to be in the"need to know" basis, for the sake of safety.

I expect some here will be perfectly fine with it and consider the new order a good thing, which is fine.

I cared to share this information with anyone else that wasn't aware of the this new state order and what potential dangers may come along with it regarding our civil rights.

I've read/heard that some Ohioans have plans on protesting this very order at the state house.


Nowhere does it say that the first responders will be given the wide breadth of HIPAA data that includes birthdates, photographs, fingerprints, social security numbers, medical records, etc.. The graphic is misleading at best as it tries to tie the two together... Is a medical diagnosis and another form of Personally identifiable information considered HIPPA data. Yes. But the graphic makes it seem like they're getting everything to include your last prostate exam records.. As the headline said, they intend to give first responders the Name and Address of those who have tested positive so they can better protect themselves vs going in blind.
 

Geezer II

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Here are the official Coronavirus guidelines:

1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.

2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.

3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.

4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.

5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.

6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.

7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.

8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.

9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.

10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…

11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..

12. In order not to get sick, you have

What
 
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Jackalope

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Like this:
Franklin county has 1,000+ confirmed cases
Take a look at the bordering counties numbers.
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The 4 major metro counties in Ohio contain 32% of the population and 53% of the cases. (Franklin, Cuyahoga, Lucas and Hamilton) That we know of.
The reason for this is quite simple. The number of retailers, restaurants, businesses, population density, and reliance on shared services like busses etc.

It's all relative brother. Here is a list of the top 4 counties by the percentage of the population that's tested positive. Then I added a couple more rural areas for comparison. Being in a rural area doesn't reduce someone's potential for infection that much because they still drive to city areas to purchase goods.


Hamilton 0.061
Lucas 0.073
Cuyahoga 0.097
Franklin 0.089 Positive

Washington 0.078% positive
Fayette 0.043
 
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Fletch

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Here are the official Coronavirus guidelines:

1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.

2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.

3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.

4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.

5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.

6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.

7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.

8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.

9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.

10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…

11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..

12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it's better not to go out, well, but no…

13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don't go to parks or walk. But don’t sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).

14. You can't go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.

15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.

16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?

17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with "I don't want to trigger panic, but…"

18. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.

19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don't live under the same roof.

20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.

21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.

22. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.

23. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of…

24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).

25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?
__________________________________________________

A little humor can go a long ways towards health....

Have a great rest of the day folks!
Did Joe Biden write those guidelines???
 

Blan37

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That is a behavior based on transmission rates, fear and novelty of the virus. The cause of loading bodies is not necessarily correlated to the death rate. Like I said, the reaction isn’t flu like.
Fear and prudence can look the same, though.
 

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giles

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Even with the "ridiculously low" numbers as compared to the entire population, the virus has still managed to overwhelm hospitals and wipe out large portions of people in nursing homes. I couldn't imagine the impact and scale of death if we didn't act prudently to slow down transmission rates and ended up with ridiculously high rates.
Beyond that, it has wiped out much needed PPE.
 
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Clay Showalter

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Even with the "ridiculously low" numbers as compared to the entire population, the virus has still managed to overwhelm hospitals and wipe out large portions of people in nursing homes. I couldn't imagine the impact and scale of death if we didn't act prudently to slow down transmission rates and ended up with ridiculously high rates.

I wasn’t saying I agreed with the article, just thought it was an interesting read
 

Fletch

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I had to go for a prescription at Walgreens today... Across the highway is a WalMart... Parking lot was 3/4 full... This WalMart does not sell food, so WTF are people doing there? I'm talking New Jersey, and you all know the shit is hitting the fan here... I know 6 people that have the virus and they are getting their ass kicked by it... I'm out of booze and was tempted to stop at the liquor store but said F that noise and drove by... Hey the liver will appreciate that...
 
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"J"

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I had to go for a prescription at Walgreens today... Across the highway is a WalMart... Parking lot was 3/4 full... This WalMart does not sell food, so WTF are people doing there? I'm talking New Jersey, and you all know the shit is hitting the fan here... I know 6 people that have the virus and they are getting their ass kicked by it... I'm out of booze and was tempted to stop at the liquor store but said F that noise and drove by... Hey the liver will appreciate that...
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