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Fletch

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After all this bullshit with the virus is over, remember to thank your local farmers for putting food on your table....
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Ohiosam

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I went to a grocery store this morning, 1st time in 2-3 weeks. It was fairly busy and seemed reasonably well stocked. I was surprised how few people were wearing masks, no more than 1/4 of the people. People who appeared to be high risk (the morbidly obese person on a scooter and elderly) were less likely to be wearing masks. People in their 30s-50s seemed most likely to be wearing them.
 
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Denny
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All they have to do get some mom in her 40s to post it on facebook and it becomes a truth believed by millions.

Really,,, wow!

I can only imagine what you might have to say about Mr. Ron Paul then cause he too had plenty to say about the current situation our country is in.

(An American author, physician, and retired politician who served as the U.S. Representative- for Texas's 22nd congressional district from 1976 to 1977 and again from 1979 to 1985, and for Texas's 14th congressional district from 1997 to 2013.)

The Backlash Is Here: From Michigan To Kentucky The People Are Rising Up

Mass protests are breaking out across the United States against the tyrannical "stay at home" orders and forced shut-downs of businesses deemed "non-essential." More than 20 million are suddenly unemployed and they are demanding to know why, with seasonal flu deaths often even higher than those predicted for coronavirus, they are forced into joblessness, poverty, and despair by a political class that faces none of these things.

Dr. Ron Paul Interview: Bill Gates & Tony Fauci Are Determined To Run The World by Vaccines

In this exclusive interview, Spiro Skouras' guest is Dr. Ron Paul. Dr. Paul needs no introduction as a multiple time congressional representative and presidential candidate.
Dr. Paul and Spiro discuss the current coronavirus crisis and the political, social and economic fallout effecting millions of Americans, as people begin to display resistance to the government lockdown response.
Dr. Paul and Spiro also discuss President Trump's position in this crisis as well as the potential conflicts of interest regarding the White House Coronavirus Task Force, in addition to a possible 'Medical Patriot Act'
__________________________________________

Regardless, We Americans are entitled to speak freely still and I stand firmly behind the '40s years old mom' that had the courage to speak out with conviction and then share it with the whole wide world. I'm proud of her, far more than any federal health authority figurehead that's currently apart of the federal Covid-19 health task force, that's for sure!
 
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Jackalope

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Here is the biggest problem that I can see.. So many of these states say they're not going to relax restrictions and start reopening businesses until they see a sustained two-week drop in hospital admissions. The problem is, that will never happen if we continue to allow people to be jam-packed in places like Lowes, Home Depot, and Walmart because they're the only places open and people are bored and ignoring the stay at home order. It's never going to happen as long as people don't start enforcing the stay at home order with their damn kids who are treating this like summer break and going over to their friend's house or out driving around. The people who are taking this seriously, and the business that are suffering because of it, will continue to get screwed while we allow the selfish pricks of our society to do as they please. If state and local is not going to enforce this under penalty of law then what the fuck are we doing besides wasting our time. I occasionally go out for a drive and the lowes parking lot is consistently busier than I have ever seen it before. Why is the garden section open? WTF is essential about potted plants and mulch? So I can go buy a hosta or sit down with a guy at lowes about ordering new kitchen counters but I can't get a damn haircut.
 

brock ratcliff

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Here is the biggest problem that I can see.. So many of these states say they're not going to relax restrictions and start reopening businesses until they see a sustained two-week drop in hospital admissions. The problem is, that will never happen if we continue to allow people to be jam-packed in places like Lowes, Home Depot, and Walmart because they're the only places open and people are bored and ignoring the stay at home order. It's never going to happen as long as people don't start enforcing the stay at home order with their damn kids who are treating this like summer break and going over to their friend's house or out driving around. The people who are taking this seriously, and the business that are suffering because of it, will continue to get screwed while we allow the selfish pricks of our society to do as they please. If state and local is not going to enforce this under penalty of law then what the fuck are we doing besides wasting our time. I occasionally go out for a drive and the lowes parking lot is consistently busier than I have ever seen it before. Why is the garden section open? WTF is essential about potted plants and mulch? So I can go buy a hosta or sit down with a guy at lowes about ordering new kitchen counters but I can't get a damn haircut.
Zero possibility of keeping a “safe distance” while getting a hair cut.
 

Jackalope

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Really,,, wow!

I can only imagine what you might have to say about Mr. Ron Paul then cause he too had plenty to say about the current situation our country is in.

(An American author, physician, and retired politician who served as the U.S. Representative- for Texas's 22nd congressional district from 1976 to 1977 and again from 1979 to 1985, and for Texas's 14th congressional district from 1997 to 2013.)

The Backlash Is Here: From Michigan To Kentucky The People Are Rising Up

Mass protests are breaking out across the United States against the tyrannical "stay at home" orders and forced shut-downs of businesses deemed "non-essential." More than 20 million are suddenly unemployed and they are demanding to know why, with seasonal flu deaths often even higher than those predicted for coronavirus, they are forced into joblessness, poverty, and despair by a political class that faces none of these things.

Dr. Ron Paul Interview: Bill Gates & Tony Fauci Are Determined To Run The World by Vaccines

In this exclusive interview, Spiro Skouras' guest is Dr. Ron Paul. Dr. Paul needs no introduction as a multiple time congressional representative and presidential candidate.
Dr. Paul and Spiro discuss the current coronavirus crisis and the political, social and economic fallout effecting millions of Americans, as people begin to display resistance to the government lockdown response.
Dr. Paul and Spiro also discuss President Trump's position in this crisis as well as the potential conflicts of interest regarding the White House Coronavirus Task Force, in addition to a possible 'Medical Patriot Act'
__________________________________________

Regardless, We Americans are entitled to speak freely still and I stand firmly behind the '40s years old mom' that had the courage to speak out with conviction and then share it with the whole wide world. I'm proud of her, far more than any federal health authority figurehead that's currently apart of the federal Covid-19 health task force, that's for sure!

"Really.. Wow.." What? It's the freaking truth... And what does that have to do with Ron Paul??? The number of people who belive shit posted on facebook by Beckey or Karen who just "wanted to make people aware" is astounding.
 

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Can You Beat COVID-19 Without a Lockdown? Sweden Is Trying
The Swedish experiment is to accept the coronavirus as a problem to be managed, rather than conclusively defeated. But will it mean more deaths?

BY T.A. FRANK
APRIL 16, 2020​



BY JONATHAN NACKSTRAND/GETTY IMAGES

Sweden has a way of triggering people. It represents everything we’re supposed to do or everything we’re not supposed to do. It is the welfare state at its best or multiculturalism at its worst. True to form, or contrary to form, Sweden is now setting off everyone in its handling of the coronavirus. Unlike most of the developed world, including neighboring Norway or Denmark, Sweden has kept its elementary schools running and allowed most its businesses, including restaurants and bars, to remain open. Travel in and out of the country remains possible for E.U. nationals. And social distancing remains, for the most part, voluntary, provided the group in question has fewer than 50 people. In short, Sweden has refused to join the rest of us in a lockdown.

This has caused a lot of traditional Sweden lovers and Sweden bashers to trade places. Much of the MSNBC left, which normally loves Sweden, now shakes its head. Much of the Fox News right, which often scorns Sweden, is now a fan. Populists on both sides are critical, with the populist left interpreting Sweden’s response as an outgrowth of a cold-blooded neoliberalism (market efficiencies over humanity) and the populist right seeing it as an outgrowth of a fanatical globalism (loose borders over health). To be sure, these are broad stereotypes with huge exceptions (some populists love what Sweden is doing and some Fox News types hate it), but they’re useful as a big picture.

In the prestige press, which among these factions is closest in sympathies to the MSNBC left, we see lots of articles hinting at impending disaster. “Sweden’s Relaxed Approach to the Coronavirus Could Already Be Backfiring,” warns a Time headline. “Sweden Girds for Thousands of Deaths Amid Laxer Virus Policy,” reports Bloomberg. “Swedish PM warned over ‘Russian roulette-style’ COVID-19 strategy,” offers the Guardian. As for the populist right, Trump has mollified it with some gentle slams of Sweden’s approach, claiming that “Sweden is suffering greatly.”

Meanwhile, many of those on the establishment right are now looking to Sweden as a role model of keeping the show going and letting commerce proceed. “Sweden has courageously decided not to endorse a harsh quarantine, and consequently it hasn’t forced its residents into lockdown,” wrote John Fund and Joel Hay in National Review. “Sweden is developing herd immunity by refusing to panic.”

It’s understandable that people have strong reactions to Sweden’s experiment. After all, every fight we have over how some other country has been handling this crisis is a fight we’re having with ourselves about how to handle it. Have we gone too far or not far enough? Should we try to push cases to zero or just flatten the curve? What happens if we loosen up sooner rather than later? How many deaths is a growing economy worth? But all of the baggage we bring to our conceptions of Sweden—if we happen to have conceptions of Sweden—gets in the way of giving its policies a fair appraisal. Whatever comes of Sweden’s approach, it’ll have something to teach us about the spread of this disease. So let’s try to understand what’s behind it and what we’re seeing.

To start with, it’s a myth that Sweden is doing nothing about the virus. Most Swedes have changed their habits a lot. Schools for older kids are closed, as are universities. People are working from home, when they can, and the elderly are being urged to keep to themselves. Gatherings of over 50 people are prohibited, and ski resorts are closed. Restaurants and bars are allowing table service only, and grocery stores are installing glass dividers between customers and cashiers. People who go to Stockholm may be stunned to see bars and cafés with customers, but they’re seeing only the Swedes who choose to run higher risks. They’re not seeing all the Swedes who are staying home.

Read more: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/can-you-beat-covid-19-without-a-lockdown-sweden-is-trying