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Was down in VC this weekend and noticed many trees are starting to drop leaves. One big maple out front of the cabin had the ground around it covered in 2 days. Standing in the squirrel woods i also heard a many a red oaks that were dropping acorns.. (and no there weren't any squirrels in them. lol ) Still early to predict but I think Fall is coming like a freight train. I'm thinking snow by late October. Might have a good cold rut this year... ickle: