if you guys are trying to make me look stupid its working , i have no clue how he does it its something he does to the arrow or maybe he does to the bow , i was just mentioning interesting parts of the conversation i had with him the other night , maybe this guy is bull shitting me maybe he isnt , i dont know , but i do know one thing , he is teaching me a great deal that i did not know about archery , from proper shooting form , to vain alignment and vain tuning