Buy a vehicle

[Clay Showalter]

Buying a vehicle should not be such a hassle or game. I found a 2022 tundra that I wanted to purchase, contacted the dealer, told them no trade, cash or finance, whatever gives me the best deal.

The dealer has only had the truck 10 days and I understand it is a nice truck, but the only offer was the $579 price drop that showed up online. Seriously on a 60k truck?

 

[Smawgunner2]

It’s effing nuts. The market is still tight I think. I remember being able to negotiate thousands…now it’s only a few hundred bucks.

 

[giles]

It's still a sellers market but it is changing. Just hasn't hit all vehicles yet. Toyota has always been "this is the price". Lots are full again. Times are changing back. If you want the toyota, just deal with it and pay up. If you want a deal, go buy a Ram.

 

[Clay Showalter]

We are $2,500 apart, they just need to give some, if not there will be other trucks. Screw em.

also reading that the new tundras are having more issues, nothing is made worth a crap anymore.

 

[giles]

Lol, they don't have to do shit. You want it, they have it. Lol. Hold your ground but keep shopping.

 

[Clay Showalter]

How do you guys that buy and sell often, not lose your butts when trading in or selling outright

 

[bowhunter1023]

We're shopping for one of the hardest to find Toyotas (Grand Highlander) and I doubt we'll see any form of negotiating beyond "we have what you and 1,000 other people want, so that's the price". Definitely a tough market for buyers.

 

["J"]

How do you guys that buy and sell often, not lose your butts when trading in or selling outright

Stretch your area online out to 500 miles, don’t be afraid to work a deal out of state. I went to WV for my 2021. I had 3 different dealerships working at the same time. Ohio, Pa and WV. The dealer in WV was more motivated.

 

[Clay Showalter]

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[Clay Showalter]

Stretch your area online out to 500 miles, don’t be afraid to work a deal out of state. I went to WV for my 2021. I had 3 different dealerships working at the same time. Ohio, Pa and WV. The dealer in WV was more motivated.

Oh yea I have it out to 1,000 miles.

 

["J"]

What’s your trim package you’re looking for?

 

[giles]

How do you guys that buy and sell often, not lose your butts when trading in or selling outright

Stay away from dealerships. Buy them broken. Buy base model and make them appeal to your needs. Never stop shopping. I look multiple times a day in a 200 mile radius of my house. Usually weekly in a 500 mile radius. You gotta be fast and ready when something pops up for a deal. Buy it before they realize they screwed up. If you are looking for an exact truck, like Jesse, just pay the ransom and don't look back. Don't think about it. You keep your shit forever, so a deal isn't that big of a problem. You aren't going to resell it. Unlike me, I am always trading around and buying. So I Buy things I don't need, things I don't want and wreck everything I want to keep. My wife hates the process. I enjoy it and I'm attached to nothing. I've got a coworker wanting to drive my 350 Monday to the bank. Traded a golf cart for a Fiat 500 yesterday. Lol, always dickering. Gotta know what you dicking with to know what a deal is when you see it.

 

[Clay Showalter]

What’s your trim package you’re looking for?

1794 with the saddle wood leather, and TRD

This is it

 

[giles]

Leveled on 35s or is that a full lift?

 

[hickslawns]

Shop. Shop more. Shop hard. Walk away from it. Start shopping again. When you find a deal, know if it is a deal, a scam, rebuilt title, or something else. Confirm EVERY option you are looking for. Might say TRD, but is it truly a 4x4 if that is what you want? Stuff like that. Might be a CRV model listed as EX-L but if it doesn't have leather it isn't -L. Couple thousand difference in price.

When you find the one that checks all the boxes, be certain to offer money over the phone to hold it. If the deal is that good, it won't be there long.

In the Superduty I just bought, it was timing. Small dealer. Semi-retired. Was traveling for a month out of country. Emptying his inventory before he left. Listed everything at wholesale price. I just happened to find it the day he listed it.

And to be fair: this is NOT a perfect truck. It has some blemishes not many would notice. @giles pointed out one when he saw it. I hadn't picked up on it nor had the guy with me or several others who had looked at it. It is also a plain model truck with some extras to dress it up. Amazing what a $1000 take off tire and rim package will do for appearance.

 

[Clay Showalter]

Leveled on 35s or is that a full lift?

On 35s, I don't know if it is leveled or lifted

 

[giles]

On 35s, I don't know if it is leveled or lifted

Hard to tell from that angle but it looks like a 3-4" lift. Making those 35s look small, like a 37 would clear without a problem. Could be the black throwing me off tho.

 

["J"]

1794 with the saddle wood leather, and TRD

This is it
View attachment 192805

Save yourself $25k and get an SR

 

[Clay Showalter]

@giles I think it you are correct about the lift. The silver one has 35" tires the gray one has 32.5" tires, but you can see that the axle centerline is much lower on the silver one.

 

[giles]

View attachment 192814View attachment 192815@giles I think it you are correct about the lift. The silver one has 35" tires the gray one has 32.5" tires, but you can see that the axle centerline is much lower on the silver one.

Extra cost is now explained/justified. That's $2,000 in just tires. I just priced a set. If that is a 295x65r20, I just bought a set.