this is just my opinion, but I think this is largely due to the enormous disparity in talent, work ethic, and legitimacy. I bid against hillbillies with no insurance, no teeth, a 20 year old rusted out truck that barely runs, and who likely do not pay any taxes on their earnings. they will do the work for half of what I'm asking, and people want to know why. I look them right in the eye and explain why they can and will work for peanuts and I won't and don't. working for homeowners is about much more than the actual service you provide. it's about how you provide it.
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That essentially is what put my father in-law out of business. He was partners with one other guy, both in their late 60's now, and one to two helpers. They had been roofing (some siding and gutters) for well over 30 years and suddenly they just couldn't compete with the crew that would show up with 10 guys and get it all torn off, cleaned up and roofed within one day for a lot less than they would quote. That was the start of him understanding where the Democrat way was killing the every day guy that used to make a decent living. He doesn't vote that way any more simply because of this.
I'm set to have my kitchen remodeled starting sometime this month. I'll have over 30 grand in it. I've had offers to do less than half that would've been done 6 months ago. I turned them all away. The guy I hired is local, along with his crew. They have a great reputation and incentive to keep it
You wanna get a feel for a contractor you’re interested in hiring? Find out where he lives and do a drive by and see what the home looks like. It’ll shed light on character......
Wow thats more then i paid to have a house built on my lot 46 years ago - well being a local guy you will get a good job
Must be all those Bosch appliances you ordered....
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I get what you're saying about value. I'm not looking for a painter to do the front of the house that is a heavy textured stucco and needs to be three colors. Like the columns and window trim white and the other a light light green, then the ceiling a hiant blue. And the sides of the doghouse dormers which will take some time and risky ladder work due to the roof pitch.
To do the job right it needs to be sprayed and that's going to take skill, the right equipment, experience, and time. The amount of backer spraying, respray at different angles to avoid spray lines, the edges where two colors will meet etc. To me that is a skilled labor that produces value for which I have no problem paying appropriatly for.
Interior painting is simply painting big flat squares and rectangles. The ability to "cut in" is about the only skill required and let's face it that's not hard we've all done it. The quote didn't include trim, baseboards or crown. Quite simply flat walls. I don't see the value in $35 an hour labor for that project. For the outside it goes beyond labor and into skill, equipment and time which should add cost and will ultimately provide value.
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I dont speak German. We won that war. Who'd buy that shit from that freeloading country?
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I agree and get what u have said but there are people that would charge your way of thinking to the young family 4000 dollars to do a job , but turn around and charge the dentist 7500 for the exact same job yet somehow maintain an honest reputation.
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Oh I'm sure the house and neighborhood adds some dollars to the cost. The disparity between what we're being quoted vs the people on FB that my wife got references from is about 15-20% imo. I need the number to that hillbilly with no teeth and a rusted-out truck.
. Maybe a better option is to put an ad on FB for a paint laborer. I work from home and can supervise just as well as anyone paying his laborer $17 an hour. Even if he screws it up and it costs me work I could pay him to do it twice for the prices I've been quoted. I'll even let him drink on the job.
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Or let the wifey do it - just flat walls - just say nOh I'm sure the house and neighborhood adds some dollars to the cost. The disparity between what we're being quoted vs the people on FB that my wife got references from is about 15-20% imo. I need the number to that hillbilly with no teeth and a rusted-out truck.
Maybe a better option is to put an ad on FB for a paint laborer. I work from home and can supervise just as well as anyone paying his laborer $17 an hour. Even if he screws it up and it costs me work I could pay him to do it twice for the prices I've been quoted. I'll even let him drink on the job.
U need to talk to the local shop teacher at the closest high school for a recommendation for a go getter that wants some cash it sounds like. I bailed hay for beer and ten bucks an hr in high school and that I was freaking killing it!Oh I'm sure the house and neighborhood adds some dollars to the cost. The disparity between what we're being quoted vs the people on FB that my wife got references from is about 15-20% imo. I need the number to that hillbilly with no teeth and a rusted-out truck.
Maybe a better option is to put an ad on FB for a paint laborer. I work from home and can supervise just as well as anyone paying his laborer $17 an hour. Even if he screws it up and it costs me work I could pay him to do it twice for the prices I've been quoted. I'll even let him drink on the job.
Aw shit. Do people do that? If so I may be screwed.
Yep, I always told my kids never buy a contractors houseAw shit. Do people do that? If so I may be screwed.
Oh I'm sure the house and neighborhood adds some dollars to the cost. The disparity between what we're being quoted vs the people on FB that my wife got references from is about 15-20% imo. I need the number to that hillbilly with no teeth and a rusted-out truck.
Maybe a better option is to put an ad on FB for a paint laborer. I work from home and can supervise just as well as anyone paying his laborer $17 an hour. Even if he screws it up and it costs me work I could pay him to do it twice for the prices I've been quoted. I'll even let him drink on the job.
If you have the paint, why not just do it yourself
LOL, yes, just do it yourself and pay yourself $17 an hour, no drinking or smoking (anything) while your on the clock, and do it like it's a real job. you know, work 8-10 hours a day until it's done. then let us know if you think you are earning a fair wage. don't forget to take your local, state and federal taxes out of your earnings when you pay yourself.
I've often wondered how many of my customers have driven by my house to see how/where I live. address is on my website. I'm guessing not very many, or I'd be out of business by now.Yep, I always told my kids never buy a contractors house
Back on the covid stuff a guy my wife works with went to his Rheumatologist and they told him if he doesn't get the covid shot by the end of the year he will no longer be welcome there.
He said fuck that guy.Lol
Already found a new doctor.
He said fuck that guy.Lol
Already found a new doctor.
