2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)

[hickslawns]

I feel you guys with a spouse in the field. Even if we could financially handle my wife leaving her paycheck. . . Where do we get our health insurance? Even if we figured this out. . . Why should she leave a field of employment in which she is fulfilled? Passionate Teachers love to educate. Passionate nurses love to serve their patients. They put their heart and soul into it. It would be difficult for my wife to find another career which was as rewarding to her. This is bigger than maintaining your principles or making a statement.

 

[Quantum673]

I believe most everyone is going to have to make similar decisions before it is over.

Companies are starting to charge employees that are unvaccinated a surcharge for health insurance. A lot of companies already do this for tobacco users. They are now starting to do it for the unvaccinated. I saw an article that stated Delta is already doing it. $200 a month more for insurance if you are not vaccinated.

If you receive VA benefits to include health benefits and/or monthly compensation, don’t be surprised if they eventually require a vaccine to continue to receive benefits. This will be a big hit to a lot of our veterans. I did some quick math for myself and just the health insurance is about a $250k benefit for someone my age.

These are just a couple examples of decisions that many of us are going to be faced with before this thing is over. Balls or not these are going to be tough decisions.

 

[Geezer II]

doubtful, but I don't understand why that would even matter? the games being played in the US with the data are the issue here, and maybe other countries are playing the same game, but maybe not. some serious fuckery going on with the way this failing treatment is being propped up by misrepresenting and omitting the actual facts about illness and hospitalizations right along side the full court press to force a needle in everyones arm whether they like it or not. never mind the ongoing purposeful ignorance of the relevance of natural immunity. those graphs are pretty graphic. good stuff, Joe.

all of this has gotten more and more rotten every day for the last `18 months.

Well comparison with other countries might shed some light. Nancy get n any pressure on this at her school ?

 

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[Jamie]

Well comparison with other countries might shed some light. Nancy get n any pressure on this at her school ?

nothing official from the district, just the expected mask shaming from all the commies and snowflakes she works with. She's definitely in a very small minority. The damn union is probably more of an issue than the district. Her students, besides like 5 out of 150, don't give a shit about Covid19 anymore. they are jumping through the hoops because the have to in order to stay in school. The district is not really pushing hard, surprisingly, administrators not policing the mask wearing at all. Dog and pony show. case numbers don't seem to be any problem at her school.

 

[Jackalope]

I believe most everyone is going to have to make similar decisions before it is over.

Companies are starting to charge employees that are unvaccinated a surcharge for health insurance. A lot of companies already do this for tobacco users. They are now starting to do it for the unvaccinated. I saw an article that stated Delta is already doing it. $200 a month more for insurance if you are not vaccinated.

If you receive VA benefits to include health benefits and/or monthly compensation, don’t be surprised if they eventually require a vaccine to continue to receive benefits. This will be a big hit to a lot of our veterans. I did some quick math for myself and just the health insurance is about a $250k benefit for someone my age.

These are just a couple examples of decisions that many of us are going to be faced with before this thing is over. Balls or not these are going to be tough decisions.

Bingo. It will likely be forced by health insurance providers as a cost avoidance measure. They don't give two shits about your health unless it costs them money. As long as they can save more on services than members who die that's a win for the bottom line. I fully expect to see a health insurance impact when our company does the annual open enrollment.

 

[Geezer II]

Bingo. It will likely be forced by health insurance providers as a cost avoidance measure. They don't give two shits about your health unless it costs them money. As long as they can save more on services than members who die that's a win for the bottom line. I fully expect to see a health insurance impact when our company does the annual open enrollment.

Yep to many $$$$$ on all the tables

 

[Quantum673]

Bingo. It will likely be forced by health insurance providers as a cost avoidance measure. They don't give two shits about your health unless it costs them money. As long as they can save more on services than members who die that's a win for the bottom line. I fully expect to see a health insurance impact when our company does the annual open enrollment.

Our open enrollment starts October 2nd. I will see what the changes are. It may be time to decide if I am going to keep employer insurance or if I will rely solely on VA.

 

[Mickey Merrie]

Reality vs Gaslighting: The Vaccine Failure Stares Us Straight in the Eyes - LewRockwell

It has now become obvious that the vaccines being injected into populations worldwide are a failure. The evidence is simply overwhelming. Consider the following: Fact #1: The vaccines do not stop the spread of Covid infection. There are countless breakthrough cases being reported all over the...

www.lewrockwell.com

More Evidence That They Know the Covid Vaccine Is Killing and Maiming People and Yet They Continue Their Death Program – The Burning Platform

Fox’s Lara Logan Suggests Migrant Surge is a 'Virus Bomb'

"Those are questions that we don't even get a chance to ask."

www.mediaite.com

 

[Geezer II]

The United States is again reporting more than 2,000 COVID-19 deaths per day, a level not seen in more than six months.

Johns Hopkins University data shows the nation reported 14,220 deaths in the week ending Tuesday. At this pace, an American dies of COVID-19 every 43 seconds.

In July, deaths were as low as 1,525 per week, or a little more than 200 per day, meaning they're almost 10 times higher now. Put another way, as many Americans are now dying every 18 hours of COVID-19 as were dying in a full week just a few months ago.

 

[Jamie]

The United States is again reporting more than 2,000 COVID-19 deaths per day, a level not seen in more than six months.

Johns Hopkins University data shows the nation reported 14,220 deaths in the week ending Tuesday. At this pace, an American dies of COVID-19 every 43 seconds.

In July, deaths were as low as 1,525 per week, or a little more than 200 per day, meaning they're almost 10 times higher now. Put another way, as many Americans are now dying every 18 hours of COVID-19 as were dying in a full week just a few months ago.

Not sure what the source of these statistics is, and it doesn't really matter to me anyway as I don't really believe anything I read or hear about this stuff, but I do not believe for one second that all of these people are dying FROM Covid, and, at this point with the amount of data available, I don't see how any rational, thinking person could. most of them may well be dying WITH it, but actually dying from the same old things that people die from every second of every day. it simply defies logic, and this exaggeration/misreporting has been exposed over and over. all of this is a means to an end.

 

[Geezer II]

Not sure what the source of these statistics is, and it doesn't really matter to me anyway as I don't really believe anything I read or hear about this stuff, but I do not believe for one second that all of these people are dying FROM Covid, and, at this point with the amount of data available, I don't see how any rational, thinking person could. most of them may well be dying WITH it, but actually dying from the same old things that people die from every second of every day. it simply defies logic, and this exaggeration/misreporting has been exposed over and over. all of this is a means to an end.

John Hopkins University data
I would swear by anything you told me about making trad bows. Covid opinions well you know what there like everyone has one

 

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[Jamie]

John Hopkins University data
I would swear by anything you told me about making trad bows. Covid opinions well you know what there like everyone has one

that is the real problem here. I can say anything I want about trad bow building, but it's pretty dang easy to verify whether or not what one person says or does is true or not. nearly impossible do that with all the medical statistics. gotta rely on the professionals you trust to help sort it out if it is important. I'm lucky that I don't have to really worry about it because I have seen how real and debilitating the fear is for some people, like my sister.

 

[Mickey Merrie]

The Plot to Exterminate Most Americans Is Generations Old and The Plans Are Finally Coming to Fruition | The Common Sense Show

The Plot to Exterminate Most Americans Is Generations Old and They Are Finally Coming to Fruition

thecommonsenseshow.com

The greater good global reset agenda...

 

[Mickey Merrie]

The Plot to Exterminate Most Americans Is Generations Old and The Plans Are Finally Coming to Fruition | The Common Sense Show

The Plot to Exterminate Most Americans Is Generations Old and They Are Finally Coming to Fruition

thecommonsenseshow.com

The greater good global reset agenda...

Chinese defector claims Covid first spread in Wuhan in October 2019

Ex-Chinese Communist Party insider Wei Jingsheng told a shocking new documentary The World Military Games in October 2019 could have acted as the virus' first superspreader event.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Jackalope]

The United States is again reporting more than 2,000 COVID-19 deaths per day, a level not seen in more than six months.

Johns Hopkins University data shows the nation reported 14,220 deaths in the week ending Tuesday. At this pace, an American dies of COVID-19 every 43 seconds.

In July, deaths were as low as 1,525 per week, or a little more than 200 per day, meaning they're almost 10 times higher now. Put another way, as many Americans are now dying every 18 hours of COVID-19 as were dying in a full week just a few months ago.

Not surprising considering the Delta variant is 3x more contagious. If a virus can infect 3x the number of people in a short time then it's expected that the impact seen will be 3x as large in the same amount of time of the last variant. In essence the Alpha variant had a flatter curve than the delta spike. We can see this in the data curves. This however does not necessarily mean the delta variant is more deadly on it's own. The jury is still out on that one as there is a major difference now with Delta vs Alpha due to vaccination ststus, vaccination manufacturer etc that have to be accounted for. Previously nobody was vaccinated, so a virus with a smaller risk of death would still show as being more deadly across the population. There is also the availability of care issue to consider with a steeper spike. As we know overwhelming available healthcare resources leads to a drop in the availability of care which impacts survival rates.

 

[Jackalope]

Remember a few weeks ago when the media was pointing all all those "neanderthal thinking" Mississippians because we had the nations lowest vaccination rate saying "LOOK LOOK at those idiots paying the price." They should have got vaccinated.. Or there were headlines like "All of the states with the lowest vaccination rates have covid spikes." This is proof that the vaccine is working.. Interestingly enough they've stopped screaming that.

MISSISSIPPI

I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that states like Vermont with the nations highest vaccination rate is now also seeing a spike much like MS did.

VERMONT

 

[giles]

Catching up on this thread seemed fruitful