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MK111

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Don't get me started on unions. In the last 53 yrs. I worked for 2 unions and both screwed me over.
1st union got a drunk caught sleeping on the job back to work after being fired 6 months with full 6 months wages as 'we have to have to watch after our follow brothers and sisters'. I told them bull and fire the bad one ones and hire good ones. I almost got fired over that.
The 2nd AUW union took union strike dues out of my check the 1st week I worked and wasn't a union member for I believe 90 days. And was told 'if you want to keep working just shut up and go back to work'. The union kept taking the money for 90 days before I was a union member.

I buy what ever is best for the value for my family. It's my hard earned money and I try to get the most for it.
I drive a 2003 Nisson 350Z with 23K miles.
2007 Ford Taurus with 90K.
2006 Ford 250 diesel crewcab with 115K and it's been a work house. Only had to install fuel injectors and high pressure oil pump the drives the fuel injectors plus tires and breaks. Most of the miles are pulling a 24 ft. heavy loaded car trailer with our gunshow supplies. Son just bought a new for Ford 350 diesel crewcab.

If I can't get 10 yrs. with proper up keep and 100K miles I feel I've been cheated.
 

Hoytmania

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Similar to the situation you witnessed my father in law got to see the same thing happen. He work for the city (all dept are union). A guy that was working in the street dept. got busted soliciting prostitution from an under cover cop while in a city vehicle. It took a year and half for the union lawyers to find a loop hole that the city missed. He not only got his job back but also all the back pay with a certain percentage of OT pay also. I can remember my FIL telling me about how he bragged about it once he was back at work, and joking about how that was the best looking prostitute he had ever seen in Mansfield. Someone commented back "That should have been your first clue she was a cop, there is no such thing as a good looking prostitute in Mansfield."

So when did we get to the point that we work to defend someone that is caught breaking the law red handed? I can feel my blood pressure rising just typing this. [emoji35]

What was started as a good thing, like so many other things in this country has gone to pure shit.
 
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hickslawns

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If any of those are packing a 5.9 Cummins or Duramax, it'd be worth rebuilding them time and time again. Thats my plan with my truck, it's an 06' that still books around $30,000! Thats just stupid…I didn't pay anywhere near that 3 years ago.

Wouldn't spend a dime on the Duramax. 2000 Dodge 3500 with 5.9 5sp, 2006 Dodge 3500 with 5.9 6sp, 95 F450 7.3 Stroke, 99 F550 7.3 Stroke, and 06 F350 with 6.0 Stroke I have had to spend money on for EGR delete. Next truck will probably burn gas. Cost of diesel fuel and the ridiculous problems with new diesels makes it difficult to want to own a newer one. Our sweeper trucks are Isuzu cabovers 2002 and 2006. Even our backhoes and skid loaders are 2006 or older. I do my best to avoid the diesel emission issues. 2008 and newer are horrible. Some of the 2007 models they started tinkering in order to be ready for the 2008 emission standards coming out.

One thing I have found: The newer the vehicle, the more problems. Everyone I know with newer vehicles seems to have issues. Electrical issues, computer codes. . . We can't fault the unions for this. We fault the manufacturers and govt. Government puts stupid expectations on the manufacturers. Manufacturers look for ways to make vehicles affordable and outsource parts. The transmission might be bulletproof. The $12 junk Chinese made solenoid inside the transmission fails and costs owner a $4000 transmission. Wheel bearings, blower motors, resistors. . .it is all the components which go into the vehicles which create all the problems.

Now I am sidetracking the thread. My apologies. New vehicle regulations aren't about our safety or saving the environment. They are about money. Why all the diesel emissions? To save the environment? Horse shit. It is to reduce fuel economy, thus increasing fuel taxes the govt takes in. Why do the manufacturers continue to cheapen components? Part of this IS to blame on the unions. With the increased costs of paying union labor and funding their pensions, they are forced to save money somewhere. Ironically, their demands for more money and benefits have pushed jobs they used to perform into the hands of companies overseas. Pretty sad. Union employees might not be seeing more money, but I guarantee Hoffa and the fellas at the top of the unions are living large.
 

huntn2

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Components get cheapened because suppliers are squeezed for it. We just had had an instance where our scorecard took a negative hit on a. RFQ because our cost per part is above the current rate this OEM is paying... yet our price is lower than what the incumbent has quoted.

By the way, I am a manufacturer for both domestic and foreign OEM's. Think my processes vary and my quality is different for one over another?
 

GoetsTalon

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I worked at Power Train in toledo for a few years and yeah the UAW sucks. If you didn't drive a GM (i do) you had to park down the street at a old 84 lumber lot. Even if you drove a ford or chrysler but within a hundred feet of the front gate they had motorcycle parking where you could park your japan made bike. Working on the output carrier line on the back side you have to put in a series of bearings so one day i read the writing on them and it says made in japan. Most the cases are mexico made. Be proud stand tall and buy american lol!!! GMs total cost for that tranny from start to finish when it left the line was just under 300$.
 
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