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Still listening but so far discussing new fleer camera surveys and nonresident hunters.
Clint McCoy on Huntr podcast
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Nearly 4hr podcast? I'll read your notes and opinions on it. I don't read. I struggle to stay focused on a podcast. Looking forward to the TOO Cliff Notes version.
I'm halfway through now and should wrap up while traveling today. Nothing new or surprising yet.
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at1010
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You beat me to sharing this one, very interesting as well.
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It’s hard to argue with Skip in my opinion. I was blown away by the fact that of the 40,000 non resident hunters that come to ohio to hunt only 15 percent harvest a buck off public land.
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That was very telling. I was shocked by that as well.
That's only one statistic that tells the story. How many hunt public land? How many lease? How many own land? How many have displaced residents hunters? How many hunt with an outfitter? How many kill does? There's a whole ball of wax that you could unwind here.
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I have never liked the idea of going against the NR. Heck, one of my best buddies is from PA, and we have a ball hunting together. However, that is my microscopic bias on the subject. At the State level, it is clearly an issue. Not to mention, there is a massive growing industry of guys paying folks to fill feeders for them. These out-of-state guys (not saying it is wrong, it is legal) are paying folks to keep bait out. They are then running cell cameras, coming over, killing the buck, and getting home by supper.
Ohio is at a crossroads.... I am not sure I have the answer, but Skip on the SBO podcast was pretty convincing, imo.
I made some bullets on things that caught my ear while listening over the last two days. In short, nothing in the state will change in the short term and it will take a something drastic to actually address any of the issues within Ohio’s deer hunting world.
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Huntr Notes:
- At certain times Clint was very careful with his language with long pauses prior to answering direct questions. Listening to an administrative personality is bland when they’re just trying to tiptoe through a conversation. That said, I get it. He has to be a politician in that position and he is well-versed in not saying anything that will give somebody else ammunition.
- EHD - the lesson we as hunters should learn is that when our voice is unified and directed it’s very impactful. Hunters caused the midseason changes because they raised hell in an organized fashion.
- NR hunting numbers haven’t changed as a percent within total Hunter numbers, but the dollars they bring has shifted and it’s affecting access for residents. More NR leasing and owning land versus hunting public land.
- Crossbows - the technology has come so far, so fast. Should regulations change as technology does?
- Baiting - growing issue amongst hunters. Still a 60/40 split with 60% for baiting and 40% against.
- Baiting - #1 preferred action within cwd zones is to ban baiting. Doing so did not reduce harvest numbers.
- No biological argument to promote corn piles.
- The combination of corn piles and cell cameras needs addressed but it’s doubtful anything will ever change.
- Access and doe harvest are big issues and there are no answers to the growing problems.
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The baiting ban - not reducing harvest was a huge one. I believe there was also state data (maybe another state) that showed crossbows being heavily regulated, total harvest didn’t slow but did shift more back to firearms.