I had a couple guys from Ohio come hunt two days this fall they seen em but no shot but two days is hard to get it done with out baiting ( which is not allowed) this year if any of you have a youth between 10-17 I’d be willing to let ya hunt to help a youth out , I’m coming this spring to Ohio to hunt with the other two that came this fall , just a thought if ya have a youth who might wanna try for one , and of course dad can too .. thanks for the comments