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DEER LIMIT CHANGE

In Athens, the local shitbag outfitter is crying that this is unfair and their area was unaffected....shocker. Same folks that ask for permission to hunt properties and then guide on them. The City is still running doe hunts on its properties- because its pay to play.

Laws come too late, basically being a result of abuse. The herd has been smoked in most of seOH and there are a number of folks who claim ignorance, or may have extra chromosome, that cannot handle comprehension of their choices affected all future seasons related to a resource. This isn't about big bucks or everybody getting a trophy or being happy. Unless you live under a rock, no one should've been shooting does this season and folks were. Someone will say Jr wanted his first deer or this is how I feed my family- time to own up to something beyond your open hands and trailer domicile.

Another deadly concern are the "experts" touting how there will be better hunting in the future. What if we have another wet spring and drought (which has been the case the last three years), or a hard winter, etc...... There's a bit of a weather trend being ignored.
 
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In Athens, the local shitbag outfitter is crying that this is unfair and their area was unaffected....shocker. Same folks that ask for permission to hunt properties and then guide on them. The City is still running doe hunts on its properties- because its pay to play.

Laws come too late, basically being a result of abuse. The herd has been smoked in most of seOH and there are a number of folks who claim ignorance, or may have extra chromosome, that cannot handle comprehension of their choices affected all future seasons related to a resource. This isn't about big bucks or everybody getting a trophy or being happy. Unless you live under a rock, no one should've been shooting does this season and folks were. Someone will say Jr wanted his first deer or this is how I feed my family- time to own up to something beyond your open hands and trailer domicile.

Another deadly concern are the "experts" touting how there will be better hunting in the future. What if we have another wet spring and drought (which has been the case the last three years), or a hard winter, etc...... There's a bit of a weather trend being ignored.
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Care to share any of this complaining? i missed it
 
gjs4 said:
In Athens, the local shitbag outfitter is crying that this is unfair and their area was unaffected....shocker. Same folks that ask for permission to hunt properties and then guide on them. The City is still running doe hunts on its properties- because its pay to play.

Laws come too late, basically being a result of abuse. The herd has been smoked in most of seOH and there are a number of folks who claim ignorance, or may have extra chromosome, that cannot handle comprehension of their choices affected all future seasons related to a resource. This isn't about big bucks or everybody getting a trophy or being happy. Unless you live under a rock, no one should've been shooting does this season and folks were. Someone will say Jr wanted his first deer or this is how I feed my family- time to own up to something beyond your open hands and trailer domicile.

Another deadly concern are the "experts" touting how there will be better hunting in the future. What if we have another wet spring and drought (which has been the case the last three years), or a hard winter, etc...... There's a bit of a weather trend being ignored.
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You are right, $650 an acre.
 
gjs4 said:
In Athens, the local shitbag outfitter is crying that this is unfair and their area was unaffected....shocker. Same folks that ask for permission to hunt properties and then guide on them. The City is still running doe hunts on its properties- because its pay to play.

Laws come too late, basically being a result of abuse. The herd has been smoked in most of seOH and there are a number of folks who claim ignorance, or may have extra chromosome, that cannot handle comprehension of their choices affected all future seasons related to a resource. This isn't about big bucks or everybody getting a trophy or being happy. Unless you live under a rock, no one should've been shooting does this season and folks were. Someone will say Jr wanted his first deer or this is how I feed my family- time to own up to something beyond your open hands and trailer domicile.

Another deadly concern are the "experts" touting how there will be better hunting in the future. What if we have another wet spring and drought (which has been the case the last three years), or a hard winter, etc...... There's a bit of a weather trend being ignored.
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I’m in SEO shooting does. Not all areas of SEO were hit hard this summer…

The outfitter you’re speaking of wasn’t hit hard either. It was not a county wide issue
 
Some of you really struggle with a differing idea or recognizing you're the problem.

Facts- DNR reported numbers show a ~75% reduction in harvest, people found dead deer from EHD in record numbers in seOH...
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"I don't like what you said because.... I want to do what I want to do. "
I know we all want 50k posts on here but if you have a fact based rebuttal.... share it

( I am not arguing that the impact didnt vary by areas.....but a town, who often struggles to balance budgets or fix potholes.... without a biologist or staff to monitor the impact....likely would make a bigger mess.)
 
If the state can't commit to management units and continues to stick to county-level decisions when setting the regs, they have no business drilling down to the township level with this decision. How far do you take it? It hit this holler, but not that one, but it's the same township. Then what? This is why the county-level approach "makes sense" in terms of this decision. All that said, I'm a big fan of the management unit approach being in a large county with 40K acres of Wayne National and a ton of disparity across our habitat types and herd structure. It doesn't cure the hypothetical "this holler and that holler" scenario, but I think it's a sound approach to overall herd management in normal circumstances.
 
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gjs4 said:
Some of you really struggle with a differing idea or recognizing you're the problem.

Facts- DNR reported numbers show a ~75% reduction in harvest, people found dead deer from EHD in record numbers in seOH...
vs
"I don't like what you said because.... I want to do what I want to do. "
I know we all want 50k posts on here but if you have a fact based rebuttal.... share it

( I am not arguing that the impact didnt vary by areas.....but a town, who often struggles to balance budgets or fix potholes.... without a biologist or staff to monitor the impact....likely would make a bigger mess.)
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Fact based rebuttal

Since buying property in Athens ohio you have wanted change. You hate your neighbors and hate what the locals do.

I have also been effected by EHD on my 2 main properties in 2 different counties. 1 of the counties is Athens and the other is the county I live in. My house has a bumper crop of deer this year while my main hunting property is void of them. I am glad they didnt take the county approach here, so I can see how some would be upset over there.

Another fact is that ODNR has always used the county approach to manage deer herds.

One more fact before i go, the guy in here you just called a crook is one hell of a guy that cares deeply about the deer population.

So close! Post 48,958
 
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