Facebook bans private gun sales and misc gun items
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Talk about forming an opinion without actually walking on the grass that's on the other side of the fence.
I joined FB in 2004. Back then, you had to have a .edu email address. So in other words, you needed to be in, or have been in college. In over 11 years, I've connected with old flames. It's nice to see them find husbands who treat them well since in most cases, I did not. I've never slept with one and my marriage is still in great shape.
As with all things in life, it's what you make it. Lots of ways to ruin a marriage other than on FB. Some forums don't allow the sales of guns and some ruin marriages. You guys quiting forums because of that?
I just read all five pages of this thread... pretty much all I've learned is who the grumpy old farts are. Hahaha
No just the one's who have true convictions and don't a crutch to get through life.
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Some people’s thought processes must not run any deeper than a mud puddle on these matters.
If we are ever at the point where an establishment or company is so big or deemed so vital to our existence, that they can start imposing their will on us through censorship without reproach, I think that alone should be cause for concern.
I certainly wouldn’t want anybody to do anything that would require them to go out of their way to stand for what they believe in or make any sacrifices, but you could at least act like you are deeply appalled by the notion.
But sadly, a good portion of the country thinks like this nowadays. It’s all about me. As long as my little slice of suburbia isn’t being disturbed don’t ask me to do anything or make any sacrifices. Somebody else’s problem. Not my fault. What’s in it for me?
This thread reminds me of the Eastern Outdoors show a few years back. This was one of the, if not the biggest, outdoor shows on the entire east coast. Very lucrative show for all involved and heavily attended. Well, a week or so before the show the promoter of it, a British company mind you, decides to put out a press release banning the display of “black” guns at the show. To make a long story short the entire show collapsed within days. Everyone from mom and pop vendors to Cabelas took a stand and pulled out of the show despite the certainty of huge financial losses and the additional prospect of losing the booth fees they had already paid. Keep in mind this is these people’s livelihood and that show was probably one of their biggest sources of revenue for the entire year.
It was good to see that the backbone and fabric that this country was founded on was still out there ……….somewhere.
If we are ever at the point where an establishment or company is so big or deemed so vital to our existence, that they can start imposing their will on us through censorship without reproach, I think that alone should be cause for concern.
I certainly wouldn’t want anybody to do anything that would require them to go out of their way to stand for what they believe in or make any sacrifices, but you could at least act like you are deeply appalled by the notion.
But sadly, a good portion of the country thinks like this nowadays. It’s all about me. As long as my little slice of suburbia isn’t being disturbed don’t ask me to do anything or make any sacrifices. Somebody else’s problem. Not my fault. What’s in it for me?
This thread reminds me of the Eastern Outdoors show a few years back. This was one of the, if not the biggest, outdoor shows on the entire east coast. Very lucrative show for all involved and heavily attended. Well, a week or so before the show the promoter of it, a British company mind you, decides to put out a press release banning the display of “black” guns at the show. To make a long story short the entire show collapsed within days. Everyone from mom and pop vendors to Cabelas took a stand and pulled out of the show despite the certainty of huge financial losses and the additional prospect of losing the booth fees they had already paid. Keep in mind this is these people’s livelihood and that show was probably one of their biggest sources of revenue for the entire year.
It was good to see that the backbone and fabric that this country was founded on was still out there ……….somewhere.
the Lackster
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Right!?! lmao
You have to pick your battles in this world. Kudos to you curmudgeons that chose to do it at every turn. I've been known to do it too. Just switched insurances to save money, but also because I wanted the guilt of paying Nationwide and the Farm Bureau off my back. Hard to complain about deer numbers when I helped feed the machine.
What you can expect from me is that I will maintain my NRA membership even though I don't always agree with their tactics. You can expect that I will actively avoid companies that I know to be anti-hunting or anti-gun and you can expect that I will most likely write a letter to my congressman letting him know that I think its complete bullshit that a company of this depth can impose selective censorship on what are otherwise legal practices for law abiding citizens.
And no I don't use facebook. People that wanted to stay in touch were doing so long before Facebook came along. I think it was Jase Robertson that said "If I haven't talked to you in 20 years, there is probably a good reason why."
Don't make me go into "Jackalope Joe Debate Mode" on your ass! lmao
I wasn't picking sides. Just saying, I respect Frank's decision, and I really think everyone else respected it as well. . . Even if they didn't agree. I said I do my best to avoid middle eastern owned businesses. That is one of my pet peeves. They freaking hate us and then come over and open a business with OUR tax dollars which they can run without paying taxes. I don't agree with it. I don't go there for the same reasons Frank doesn't support anti-gun businesses.
In regards to the FB bull crap? It dropped the ability to sell guns there. If they start banning my right to free speech or what I am allowed to post, then I will have some real issues. I post plenty of pro-gun stuff on FB and I believe it has started many discussions with friends and family who were against guns. Some of them will never change their stance, but others have been enlightened and educated. Will I pull my business page? NOPE. It is dollars and cents. Not saying it brings in many (if any) dollars, but it is an additional way to brand our business locally.
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I remember it well. We were deeply involved in emailing vendors about it. The difference there is they claimed to be FOR sportsmen or a sportsman's event.
I wouldn't say people are not deeply appalled by it. More like desensitized to it. Ebay did it years ago. Amazon never sold them, dicks sporting goods yanked black guns off the shelf. It's like seeing a mangled corpse. After the 100th one you stop flipping your gourd about it. The reality is facebook is a private company, not a government entity. They can do what they want. They have a right too. Some call that censorship. They're simply doing what they think is right for their business. Can't fault them there. Now that happens to be at odds with what I believe. But my God man, if I boycotted every business that went against my beliefs I would live in a dirt hut in Arizona eating scorpions. Facebook has it's place and it's uses. Just so happens that place and use, no longer includes the sale of guns. That was never a right but rather an allowed use. I can't go to the grocery store and sell guns like Girl Scouts sell cookies. But you don't see me boycotting Kroger. It's not the fact of it not being allowed that has people up in arms. It's a fact of no longer being allowed that has people pissed. I guarantee if it was never allowed in the first place people wouldn't be saying a word. Just like you don't see them pissing and moaning they can't sell them at Kroger.
the Lackster
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Ok - so explain this to me then. Let's use a fictitous cable company as an example. Meets all the criteria you laid out above - right? This cable company also happens to be the only option you have in your area and is the only game in town for cable tv. Let's say the board of this company has decided that by having its subscribers viewing guns on tv was inciting violence and bad PR for them. Subscribers can now no longer view any programs or movies that have guns shown in them. I don't see how this is any different than FB singling out its ban. We're already desensitized to television bans as tobacco ads and cursing in most programs has been banned for years - right?
Hortontoter
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I'm not saying everyone does things the same on FB Jesse. But, I could make a long list of friends that have had marriages dissolved due to FB. And yes, I could say the same thing happens on online dating sites or at the neighborhood grocery store. I was just stating what I have witnessed happen to many people that I know.
And jagermeister, I believe us grumpy old men are entitled to our opinion, even if it differs from others.
