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Found a nice one dead today

If anything gun is worse than bow...In my opinion...More deer recover from archery wounds than gun inflicted wounds...Deer get wounded by both partys...I just think the nature of the wounds, and the time of yr allows archery deer to recover easier from superficial wounds.

Respectfully I would disagree with that assessment. There is opportunity for followup shots while gun hunting, there are also far more hunters in the woods and a much higher likelihood that a wounded deer if killed on the next hill or farm. The skill set required for a hunter of any skill level to kill a deer is greatly reduced with a gun versus a bow. A slug kills with shock, tissue damage and hermorage, a arrow has primarily only hermorage. Vastly improved range over a bow. You do not need to be very skilled to kill a deer with a gun. Without a doubt there are wounded and lost deer during our gun seasons.

I base by personal beliefs on a couple of things. One I have been a active gun hunter for over 40 years and bowhunter for 38 years. I have killed my share of deer in multiple states. I have been involved in the recovery and attempted recovery of others deer multitudes of times. I was the president of a very large bowhunter club, I was very active in competitive bow shoots for many years. I was associated with huge numbers of avid bowhunters. I heard the hunting successes and failures every year from multitudes of some of the best bow shots and hunters that existed, much like the group that exists here on this site.

If you factor those accounts over the years that I personally am aware of from excellent bowhunters in conjunction with the huge increase in bowhunter numbers and harvest from a increasing number of ill equipped and poorly trained bow shooters and hunters that exist today and I firmly believe you have the formula for what we read on every hunting site during the bow season. Take a look at just this site with excellent conceiensius bowhunters and the reported deer lost in less than one week of season. I assure you the vast majority of bowhunters today are not active on hunting websites, or bow clubs, or have ever visted a archery pro shop.

Then reflect back to all of these same hunting sites that experience a high frequency of lost deer posts during the bow seasons that have no posts about lost deer during the gun seasons. A lot of guys on here, as on other sites, also gun hunt but you do not see many, if any, lost deer threads.

As a simple mater of math, just based upon lost deer post frequency by members on hunting sites I believe it lives little doubt about which segment is the least effective as a ratio of shots to recovery.

I know it is a feel good statement to say that gun hunters are worse, especially if you happen to be someone that has lost a deer while bowhunting at some point, it hurts, it sucks big time, but I don't think there is any evidence to support that statement and in fact with available information from the hunters themselves on sites like this one it certainly doesn't seem to match what the hunters are telling us.

Feel bad for whoever lost that deer. Hopefully you will get to keep it. Don't forget to call the GW and get a tag for it
 
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wow thats a freakin dandy!!! That'll make you sick just thinking about it.... def brings up some blasts from the past for me. Good find tho!
 
Never heard nothing from the landowners, but just drove by and someone had skull plated it. Hopefully it was whoever had lost the deer. I'll end up talking to the landowners at some point and find out the story .
 
I hope they tagged the antlers... You find it (even after some time) and youre the one responsible for it's death, tag it. Just my opinion.
 
Lundy..... Everything you said sounds good but I think your leaving a factor out about gun season. What I have noticed is that a large number of "hunters" that go out for gun season are there to just try to earn there man card with there buddies. They go out after a night of drinking with either a brand new shotgun or one they borrowed and haven't even fired. They walk around like Elmer fudd and shoot at anything that moves. More often than not unloading all three rounds or more cause the don't know the laws. And If they're lucky they wound one mortally. Then they have no idea how to track it and they were so excited they actually got to shoot at one they didn't pay attention to where the deer was when they hit it. I guess the same could be said about a crossbow but I don't think it happens as much.
 
If I'd have shot a deer that nice I would have looked until my legs fell off! WAY to nice a deer to have given up on finding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Lundy..... Everything you said sounds good but I think your leaving a factor out about gun season. What I have noticed is that a large number of "hunters" that go out for gun season are there to just try to earn there man card with there buddies. They go out after a night of drinking with either a brand new shotgun or one they borrowed and haven't even fired. They walk around like Elmer fudd and shoot at anything that moves. More often than not unloading all three rounds or more cause the don't know the laws. And If they're lucky they wound one mortally. Then they have no idea how to track it and they were so excited they actually got to shoot at one they didn't pay attention to where the deer was when they hit it. I guess the same could be said about a crossbow but I don't think it happens as much.

I would have agreed with your statement 2 years ago, but now it sounds like a lot of fly by night bow hunters that I know now too. Bowhunter numbers have really gone up the past few years, with gun hunters more stable.
 
Found another today . Upper 120's ,maybe 130 ten point. Can't get the pic to work off photo bucket. Keeps saying file to large. Try tomorrow I guess
 
Dang! BTW, I AGREE with Lundy! Seems the fellas in Jake's neck of the woods need some practice and bowhunter ed...or just a lil better luck!
 
It was a different property, bout 3 miles away from the other . For arguments sake I cover a lot of rural country with my job , and if I said I wasn't looking for critters the whole time I would be lying.
 
a large number of "hunters" that go out for gun season are there to just try to earn there man card with there buddies. They go out after a night of drinking with either a brand new shotgun or one they borrowed and haven't even fired. They walk around like Elmer fudd and shoot at anything that moves. More often than not unloading all three rounds or more cause the don't know the laws. And If they're lucky they wound one mortally. Then they have no idea how to track it and they were so excited they actually got to shoot at one they didn't pay attention to where the deer was when they hit it.

Oh, you've met my neighbor, then? He was proud as a peacock that him and his buddies all got to shoot at a doe and came over to brag. He wasn't sure but thought that maybe one of his group had possibly hit her. :smiley_confused_vra