I know the same thing many of you know. I use to go deer hunting and enjoy seeing deer. Now I get up in the morning knowing with almost certaintly I will not see any deer. I hear some people talk about seeing 3, 5, 10 or more deer while out hunting. All I can say is DO NOT take it for granted. I once thought that the division would be responsible and I would not have to worry about never seeing any deer, but that day has came and went. I was fortunate enough to kill a buck early in the season, and traveled 100 miles east to kill a doe as I refuse to kill one in my own county. Come gun season I was focused on getting a new hunter a deer. Since then between the two gun seasons and the weekend of muzzy season we have hunted an entire week, and the only deer we saw was one buck at 9 am on opening monday of gun season. We are hunting the same area where I use to enjoy seeing a reasonable amount of deer in the past. She has since informed me has no more desire to hunt, as she is sick of sitting all those hours and never seeing a deer. I had to beg her to try "one more time" this past sunday of muzzy season. It breaks my heart that she feels this way, but I completely understand. If I wasn't already an established hunter, I would probably quit myself. This has definitely became personal to me. About the only people here killing any deer are the drivers because 90 percent of the properties have been already hunted to extinction before gun season even rolls around and no sane deer will move naturally during daylight. The other 10 percent of the properties still have a decent deer population, but are off limits to hunters. All I can say is we as Ohio hunters need to put our money where are mouth is and start standing up to this crap. If all we can do is whine on the internet, why even bother? If it is as bad as we say it is, it will be standing room only come the odnr open house this march. See you there.