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Heroin: it's gettin waaaaay outta hand!!!

Is it because so many are bored cause they don't work?

This may not be the major reason, but I do believe it is a part of it. Boredom, looking for something "exciting" to do, and instant gratification. After all, no one believes they will be the one to become addicted.
 
Here's a great story that sorta involves a sad addict tale.

My best friend in this world, Lathe, and I attended the same church all through our childhood. When we were about 15 or so, there was a young man half our age that had several mental and social issues due to his mother being a drunk and addict while he was in the womb. His grandmother was raising him and faithfully brought the boy to church. He would say and do the most inappropriate things in every service. Everyone overlooked his misdeeds, he couldn't help it after all.

One day, Lathe and I were leaving the church, walking down the long set of stairs in front of the building. The boy run up behind Lathe, drew up a world class luggie and launched it onto Lathes back. In a most unChristianlike manor, Lathe pivoted without hesitation , grabbed the youngster by his ears and returned fire directly into the boys face! It was amazing. The grandma was screaming, "He doesn't know what he's doing", and Lathe replied calmly, "Maybe so, but I bet that SOB doesn't spit on me again". Some lessons are hard to learn, that kid learned. Even to this day, 30 years later, if I mention the incident to Lathe, he will unapologeticly reply, "that sob never spit on me again".
I believe a certain percentage of people just have to die for this nonsense to stop. Hard lessons to learn are well learned. Life is tough, it's tougher if you are dumb.
lmao

I can't wait to see Lathe again!
 
Please continue to stay strong and never fall back into that miserable evil hole of alcohol addiction Chad! We're all very proud of you and others here and everywhere that's tried their hardest to remain sober and stayed that way for an extended amount of years! This goes to those who've kicked the pain killer,hard drugs,nicotine and recreational drugs as well. Like they say, once an alcoholic always an alcoholic. I'm in the exact same boat with tobacco and could easily fall back into dipping if I just had one pinch of Grizzley straight longcut but I choose not to go down that road again. It's very tough when I'm around those that do it but I stick to my guns just like Chad has done with his situation. It takes dedication!

What perplexes me though and the main reason I started this thread is, WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL TRYING HEROIN,CRYSTAL METH AND OTHER NASTY DIRTY SHIT DRUGS FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER ALL THIS DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ITS CAUSED ITS USERS AND THEIR FAMILIES????

Is it because so many are bored cause they don't work? Like Brock says, the steal to help support their drug habit!


What happened to COMMON SENSE??? With all that's happened with these drugs like heroin and meth, why are people who haven't used them trying them?

Chad seems to be thinking that painkiller abusers are the majority of people trying them, is that the case?


I have heard addicts talk about how they took Percocet, Oxycotin or Vicodin at first. Then someone says "If you like that you should try heroine. It's cheaper and the high is much better". BAM! Done deal....
A lot of it starts as peer pressure and thrill seeking. Addicts and users do not tell the truth...just their truth. They will glorify the usage and talk about the positives (as they know it). The addiction is when it takes you over. The endorphins in your brain crave the attention that the drug gives you. Like a voice that keeps saying it's fun! It's like they don't have the ability to remember or see the bad times, only the good. Most addicts will not change until it hurts too bad not to. Parents think they are helping their kids when really they are being an enabler. Basicly helping to pad the hurt and keep them afloat a little longer. Addicts are pros at adapting to this and using your kindness against you and to their advantage.
The heroine users want company. Many are talked into "Just once won't get you hooked". Then the high is so euphoric your endorphins take over and it's "Just one more time". Some of this is brought on from things from childhood or teen years that created a problem or shame deep inside a person. They try to cover it up with this happy high and it turns into the devil. This is the madness from it.... Stop and make it all better seems so simple to the every day person. But to an addict, it's a sad, sad way of life that rock bottom must be found. Bottom line, if a person does not get clean, Jails, Institution and Death are inevitable.
Again, I am so glad most of you do not understand how it works. Whether you say your prayers or just think about grateful things.... Just be glad it makes no since to you. Maybe even say Thanks out loud.
 
What some fail to understand is it gets freaking old hearing how someone "struggled" with addiction. I struggle with sobriety. Who gives a shit. We all have our own crosses to bare, it so happens, some chose to add to the weight of their cross. The real problem comes in that those who choose that route have added enough weight to their cross that they expect others to help bare it. You're a drug addict, fuck you. Leave me and my shit alone, and stay the hell away from my kids or I'll bury your scabby ass in a shallow hole. Personally, I'm sick of this victim bullshit. I'm also sick of these fuckers stealing everything that isn't nailed down.

I saw a thing on FB the other day that put things in perspective for me. Essentially it pointed out that an epipen is now 300/per stick. Fucking Narcam is free? So an innocent kid that is allergic to bees can die if they don't have the money but a fucking junkie gets a free ride? FUCK THAT. The entire thought process of today's world is polar opposite of what I think, so it should come as no surprise that I have NO pitty for a fucking junkie.

Did I ever tell you I used to be a drunk? No? Probably because it doesn't define me, never did. It was a waste of time and resources. I wasn't a victim. No one ever made me drink a drop, I did it all on my own. Did I ever mention that I used to love to smoke Marlboro? Those things will kill you, so I quit. I wasn't a victim. If I die as my FIL just did due to me previously smoking, I'm not suing. No cig manufacture ever lit one for me. I'm not a victim.

I've got dope heads across the road from me. They know I will bury them if the need arises. So far, I'm the only person within a mile of my home that has not been robbed. Guess who the thieves are? The fucking addicts across the road! Everyone knows it. They steal from their parents and neighbors, and piss me off just by driving down my otherwise quiet road in some pos vehicles with no exhaust! If I were a cop I'd simply pull over every vehicle with a load exhaust. Every dope buyer and seller that comes down our road has a busted exhaust, and 80 percent of the SOB's have a neck tattoo. Fuck them, they aren't victims, they are trash. Darwin was right about a lot of things.... Narcam is slowing the process.
Dang! It's so true!
 
We just had this happen the other day, East Liverpool PD were called to a park where the driver was unconscious... Turned out two adults and a child... Both parents OD'd when police arrived... Pictures were taken and they decided to publish as to make the community aware of the severity of it...

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And again the child suffers from what the parents choose to do with themselves...

This is the statement they put out while publishing the pictures....

Warning Graphic Content!

The city Police department recently responded to a call of an incapacitated driver, attached are photos from the scene along with the actual police report. The city administration works hand in hand with our men in blue to combat this epidemic and together with the law director we have made the decision to release the attached.

We feel it necessary to show the other side of this horrible drug. We feel we need to be a voice for the children caught up in this horrible mess. This child can't speak for himself but we are hopeful his story can convince another user to think twice about injecting this poison while having a child in their custody.

We are well aware that some may be offended by these images and for that we are truly sorry, but it is time that the non drug using public sees what we are now dealing with on a daily basis. The poison known as heroin has taken a strong grip on many communities not just ours, the difference is we are willing to fight this problem until it's gone and if that means we offend a few people along the way we are prepared to deal with that.
 
What some fail to understand is it gets freaking old hearing how someone "struggled" with addiction. I struggle with sobriety. Who gives a shit. We all have our own crosses to bare, it so happens, some chose to add to the weight of their cross. The real problem comes in that those who choose that route have added enough weight to their cross that they expect others to help bare it. You're a drug addict, fuck you. Leave me and my shit alone, and stay the hell away from my kids or I'll bury your scabby ass in a shallow hole. Personally, I'm sick of this victim bullshit. I'm also sick of these fuckers stealing everything that isn't nailed down.

I saw a thing on FB the other day that put things in perspective for me. Essentially it pointed out that an epipen is now 300/per stick. Fucking Narcam is free? So an innocent kid that is allergic to bees can die if they don't have the money but a fucking junkie gets a free ride? FUCK THAT. The entire thought process of today's world is polar opposite of what I think, so it should come as no surprise that I have NO pitty for a fucking junkie.

Did I ever tell you I used to be a drunk? No? Probably because it doesn't define me, never did. It was a waste of time and resources. I wasn't a victim. No one ever made me drink a drop, I did it all on my own. Did I ever mention that I used to love to smoke Marlboro? Those things will kill you, so I quit. I wasn't a victim. If I die as my FIL just did due to me previously smoking, I'm not suing. No cig manufacture ever lit one for me. I'm not a victim.

I've got dope heads across the road from me. They know I will bury them if the need arises. So far, I'm the only person within a mile of my home that has not been robbed. Guess who the thieves are? The fucking addicts across the road! Everyone knows it. They steal from their parents and neighbors, and piss me off just by driving down my otherwise quiet road in some pos vehicles with no exhaust! If I were a cop I'd simply pull over every vehicle with a load exhaust. Every dope buyer and seller that comes down our road has a busted exhaust, and 80 percent of the SOB's have a neck tattoo. Fuck them, they aren't victims, they are trash. Darwin was right about a lot of things.... Narcam is slowing the process.

damn, I love this mans way of thinking, wish we were neighbors.
 
We just had this happen the other day, East Liverpool PD were called to a park where the driver was unconscious... Turned out two adults and a child... Both parents OD'd when police arrived... Pictures were taken and they decided to publish as to make the community aware of the severity of it...

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And again the child suffers from what the parents choose to do with themselves...

This is the statement they put out while publishing the pictures....

Warning Graphic Content!

The city Police department recently responded to a call of an incapacitated driver, attached are photos from the scene along with the actual police report. The city administration works hand in hand with our men in blue to combat this epidemic and together with the law director we have made the decision to release the attached.

We feel it necessary to show the other side of this horrible drug. We feel we need to be a voice for the children caught up in this horrible mess. This child can't speak for himself but we are hopeful his story can convince another user to think twice about injecting this poison while having a child in their custody.

We are well aware that some may be offended by these images and for that we are truly sorry, but it is time that the non drug using public sees what we are now dealing with on a daily basis. The poison known as heroin has taken a strong grip on many communities not just ours, the difference is we are willing to fight this problem until it's gone and if that means we offend a few people along the way we are prepared to deal with that.

How fuggin sad are those pictures!!!!

KUDOS to law enforcement in that community to get proactive and take this epidemic head on!!!
 
And again the child suffers from what the parents choose to do with themselves...

This is the statement they put out while publishing the pictures....

Warning Graphic Content!

The city Police department recently responded to a call of an incapacitated driver, attached are photos from the scene along with the actual police report. The city administration works hand in hand with our men in blue to combat this epidemic and together with the law director we have made the decision to release the attached.

We feel it necessary to show the other side of this horrible drug. We feel we need to be a voice for the children caught up in this horrible mess. This child can't speak for himself but we are hopeful his story can convince another user to think twice about injecting this poison while having a child in their custody.

We are well aware that some may be offended by these images and for that we are truly sorry, but it is time that the non drug using public sees what we are now dealing with on a daily basis. The poison known as heroin has taken a strong grip on many communities not just ours, the difference is we are willing to fight this problem until it's gone and if that means we offend a few people along the way we are prepared to deal with that.

That's some heartbreaking stuff right there.
 
My native American Indian name is "He who rides fences." There have been many great points on both sides. Every situation is a little different. Glad I don't have to fight the addiction myself. We are raising the child of a couple pieces of trash and trying to put him back together. Hard to have any compassion for his biological parents. I don't wish them ill will, but I don't have compassion for them.
 
Remember. Anyone is susceptible to this, even your own. Be careful what you wish onto others.

 
My uncle is an ER doc here in New Mexico and the amount of dumbasses he has who come in high as shit cussing him out is unreal. They all say this doctor doesn't know shit meth isn't that bad for you. They think it's some fucking conspiracy where we act like its bad because we don't want them to do it. Thankfully he's on the board of the hospital so he just kicks all the drug seekers out because it doesn't affect him. The amount of mental disorders and messed up children in this town is disgusting
 
Remember. Anyone is susceptible to this, even your own. Be careful what you wish onto others.

This is so true. All we can do I guess is teach and talk to our children about how addictive,evil and dangerous messing with any drug or pain killer can be and hope they believe us!

I worry everyday now when I know my girls are driving or riding anywhere these days! Driving is far more dangerous than when a lot of us were their age! More vehicles are on the road and now we have drugs and cell phones.....UGH!!!
 
Remember. Anyone is susceptible to this, even your own. Be careful what you wish onto others.

Yes it can, but like Joe stated earlier, you gotta treat it with tough love at times.... Too many people overlook or rationalize the condition instead of hitting head on and smacking them around to try to wake them up.... Until it's too late....
 
I believe the point that several are trying to make is that anyone can become an addict. It's not just low life scum bag junkies.

I do not make excuses for them but I also realize that they are not all scum. I treated my sister with tough love. I did not feel sorry for her when she went to jail. She did the crime so do the time. While she was on drugs to me she was a low life. I also knew though that she could be a viable participant in society. If she could get clean. She is clean now. Hopefully she stays that way. It is up to her. She now understands she is susceptible to relapse if she has one week moment. Time will tell if she wants it bad enough.

 
I believe the point that several are trying to make is that anyone can become an addict. It's not just low life scum bag junkies.

I do not make excuses for them but I also realize that they are not all scum. I treated my sister with tough love. I did not feel sorry for her when she went to jail. She did the crime so do the time. While she was on drugs to me she was a low life. I also knew though that she could be a viable participant in society. If she could get clean. She is clean now. Hopefully she stays that way. It is up to her. She now understands she is susceptible to relapse if she has one week moment. Time will tell if she wants it bad enough.

Good post. Like I said, "every situation is different." I wouldn't wish it on anyone. However, some who have chosen the path repeatedly. . . I don't have compassion for them anymore. I do believe you have to "want to" get clean. I honestly admit part of the reason I haven't quit chewing is because I haven't wanted to quit bad enough. If I have ill health because of it, I wouldn't expect a ton of pity. I did it to myself. Not sure chewing and doing heroin are very good examples though. It is a bit apples to oranges. I don't get it. I'm glad I don't fully "get it". I hope I never have to deal with it with my children or those close to me. I hope they can curb the issue it has become.