haha, I know what you mean. Jesse and I were hunting a field edge one evening last year and it came time to get down, but there were too many deer in the field to get down undetected. I started blowing on the grunt call some to try and spook them out, but they paid no attention. I blew so hard on that call that it sounded like a duck call, and still the deer paid no attention. Tried gobbling like a turkey, howling like a coyote, and nothing. We were dieing laughing because any other time, those deer would have bolted from the slightest noise. It wasn't until we started to climb down that they decided to get the hell outta dodge.