Amen too that.... I didn't have too whack the kids much I can count on one hand for the both of them but they spent a lot of time alone in their rooms and they hated that more.... never had any real problems out of either of them.... but they knew the rules and what came with breaking them....
That is just the thing though J. You found out what was effective for them and implemented it. I can assure you all three of ours have penalties which work and don't work. Make mention of grounding my 10yr old daughter from her Kindle Fire and she is walking the straight and narrow. Raise your voice at my 8yr old son and he knows he better shape it up or a spanking is coming. Our 11yr old nephew. . . well, we are still working on him. Currently, the spankings have proven to be effective. Removing all privileges, picking up dog poop or sticks in the yard, extra homework assignments, time outs, extra chores. . . we have tried them all. I think the biggest thing is consistency. Sure, the kids will screw up. I know I did. Consistent discipline and keeping on them is the main thing I think. Those allowed to run wild are the tough ones. Monster Raxx nailed it when mentioning school shootings. I sure don't remember any, but I remember Mom and Dad lighting up my butt as well as the school principal a couple times.