Kitchen circuit out
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Buckmaster
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Couple ways to look at that bud. You've done it yourself your whole life, let it be some other persons headache, enjoy your time off.
Good deal!
A loose neutral can be quite dangerous as well. Neutrals are not protected typically. They can and will carry tons of amperage if a loaded circuit is not complete. Even more than any phase, homes being typically single phase configuration.
A good rule of thumb to understand; more people are killed by 120 volts than any other voltage. It only takes a ½ an amp typically to stop a person’s heart and that amperage can be driven by one single volt. An open neutral can carry hundreds of amps with minimal voltage pushing it and if you happen to be a better least resistance path to ground than anything else around you to complete that circuit path, I will guarantee that you will get the living shit shocked out of you, if not burnt badly and/or killed, and no panel breaker will ever trip to shut it down.
So, to play it safe when it comes to electricity. It’s no joke if you do not know what you are doing, and it can or will kill you before you even know what happened.
One reason why I never use devices (receptacles, switches, lights or whatever) to daisy chain any electrical circuit. Meaning, in and then through the actual device. Each device gets its own neutral & phase through pigtails, feed off the wall electrical panel homerun circuit. If any device fails, it will not take out the entire circuit (all devices associated with it) unless there is a direct short within that device itself which will typically trip the main panel breaker or GFI of such circuit. Only that device will be affected and are quite easy to identify and troubleshoot an electrical problem when they occur. Much easier to isolate, or they are basically self-isolated.
Just so you and others know as well, my first profession was a high voltage electrician. I have several years of experience and have done countless commercial, industrial, and residential installs over the years here in Ohio and throughout the country, including wiring my own homes. I also have tons of troubleshooting experience from high voltage down to the minuet milliamps within motor control panels and/or electronic boards of computers or S.M.A.R.T whatever’s.
Again, glad you to hear you are completely back on-line and safe!
A loose neutral can be quite dangerous as well. Neutrals are not protected typically. They can and will carry tons of amperage if a loaded circuit is not complete. Even more than any phase, homes being typically single phase configuration.
A good rule of thumb to understand; more people are killed by 120 volts than any other voltage. It only takes a ½ an amp typically to stop a person’s heart and that amperage can be driven by one single volt. An open neutral can carry hundreds of amps with minimal voltage pushing it and if you happen to be a better least resistance path to ground than anything else around you to complete that circuit path, I will guarantee that you will get the living shit shocked out of you, if not burnt badly and/or killed, and no panel breaker will ever trip to shut it down.
So, to play it safe when it comes to electricity. It’s no joke if you do not know what you are doing, and it can or will kill you before you even know what happened.
One reason why I never use devices (receptacles, switches, lights or whatever) to daisy chain any electrical circuit. Meaning, in and then through the actual device. Each device gets its own neutral & phase through pigtails, feed off the wall electrical panel homerun circuit. If any device fails, it will not take out the entire circuit (all devices associated with it) unless there is a direct short within that device itself which will typically trip the main panel breaker or GFI of such circuit. Only that device will be affected and are quite easy to identify and troubleshoot an electrical problem when they occur. Much easier to isolate, or they are basically self-isolated.
Just so you and others know as well, my first profession was a high voltage electrician. I have several years of experience and have done countless commercial, industrial, and residential installs over the years here in Ohio and throughout the country, including wiring my own homes. I also have tons of troubleshooting experience from high voltage down to the minuet milliamps within motor control panels and/or electronic boards of computers or S.M.A.R.T whatever’s.
Again, glad you to hear you are completely back on-line and safe!
Buckmaster
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Thus the moral of the story...don’t lick 9 volt batteries....Denny said you could die. I survived grade school!
Direct current (DC) can and usually is much worse being shocked by, especially when you get up into the higher amperage of batteries. Alternate current (AC) does give you at least a fraction of time to at least try to brake away from such given electrical shock. The higher the amperage, the much worse is can be to brake free. The higher the voltage, the hotter and faster it will burn something and may through you for a loop or two.
I've seen people electrocuted and it's not a pretty sight, or at times, the smell combined with sight will turn most anyone's' stomach.
I would hate to see anyone get hurt by not taking most any form electricity seriously because when electric shit goes south unexpectedly, it usually happens so fast that nobody knows what happened to them or those around until after the fact.
Good to know you survived those batteries back in your day. I bet they didn't taste good either.