New steel slugs for shotguns

[MK111]

There's a write up in The NRA American Hunter magazine this month.
Ddupleks steel slugs, solid and expendable. Anyone use them?
https://www.ddupleks.com/

 

[giles]

Seems like the lose of power (KE) from the lighter material would hurt a fella in the long range.

 

[Lundy]

looks like a nice personal defense round, but don't think I would have any interest in shooting a deer with one, maybe a pig.

 

[giles]

looks like a nice personal defense round, but don't think I would have any interest in shooting a deer with one, maybe a pig.

Nah, at point blank, I’d be worried about it bouncing off the skull.

 

[Blan37]

After seeing what a rifled lead slug did to the doe I shot this year, I don't think there's much need for anything beyond a hunk of lead.

I wonder - would those even be legal in Ohio for deer? Regulations don't say anything about lead or steel, just 'rifled slug or ball': "Shotgun: 10 gauge or smaller shotgun using one ball or one rifled slug per barrel (rifled shotgun barrels are permitted when using shotgun slug ammunition)."

At any rate, here's an entertaining video on those rounds. The jug with the cardboard behind it is pretty intereting (fast forward to 8:19 to see that test): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq-G9gcBbOI.

I'm with Lundy. I wouldn't want to try it on a deer. I'd love to see what it would do to a coyote, though.

 

[giles]

That video is pretty impressive. Looks like a lot of wasted meat would happen. I agree with you guys now, Kim saying pig made me think on the farm, not wild. My bad

 

[Lundy]

Seems like the lose of power (KE) from the lighter material would hurt a fella in the long range.

I'm sure you already know this but the overall weight of the mass times velocity will determine KE. 430 gr, 1 oz slug in steel will perform very similar to a 1 oz slug of a different density material in initial KE. These slugs actually have better numbers that the old stand by Remington Copper Solid shooting the same weight slug but partially because this slug is 150-200 FPS faster

 

[giles]

I'm sure you already know this but the overall weight of the mass times velocity will determine KE. 430 gr, 1 oz slug in steel will perform very similar to a 1 oz slug of a different density material in initial KE. These slugs actually have better numbers that the old stand by Remington Copper Solid shooting the same weight slug but partially because this slug is 150-200 FPS faster

Nope, this bullet is confusing my simple little brain. I see it as the difference in shot. You can shoot lead shot way easier in the wind then steel. I also like to shoot squirrels with steel shot as it kills them, but often doesn’t penetrate the meat.

I understand that and ounce of material is still an ounce. Drag/drift/penetration is what has me boggled here.

 

[Jackalope]

Nope, this bullet is confusing my simple little brain. I see it as the difference in shot. You can shoot lead shot way easier in the wind then steel. I also like to shoot squirrels with steel shot as it kills them, but often doesn’t penetrate the meat.

I understand that and ounce of material is still an ounce. Drag/drift/penetration is what has me boggled here.

Thats because shot is standardized by diameter. A #4 steel shot is the same size as a #4 lead shot, but the steel is much lighter per pellet and thus has less energy and is more susceptible to drift. A 1oz slug is a 1oz slug when it comes to energy. The steel slug is likely larger than the lead one depending on steel density.

 

[giles]

Thats because shot is standardized by diameter. A #4 steel shot is the same size as a #4 lead shot, but the steel is much lighter per pellet and thus has less energy and is more susceptible to drift. A 1oz slug is a 1oz slug when it comes to energy. The steel slug is likely larger than the lead one depending on steel density.

I knew there was a simple fact I was missing, thanks. That part completely skipped my mind, over thinking it I guess. I didn’t know I was capable[emoji23].

 

["J"]

I knew there was a simple fact I was missing, thanks. That part completely skipped my mind, over thinking it I guess. I didn’t know I was capable[emoji23].

Don’t sell yourself short, Dave....

 

[giles]

Don’t sell yourself short, Dave....

I’m 3.6558835’ tall...