North Carolina Rescue issues

[Clay Showalter]

Started a new thread. This should piss you off. Some local fire chief or assistant fire chief telling a volunteer to not help and to not even go back for his copilot, who happens to be his son

SC pilot flying volunteer supply and rescue missions ordered out of Lake Lure under arrest threat

The first rescue was of two women who were stranded high up on a mountain.

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[Clay Showalter]

Here is a news report. I sure hope there is a good excuse for this.

 

["J"]

Over reaching tough guy, that fire official should be relieved of any duties in that area.

 

[brock ratcliff]

Sounds like that guy is a hall monitor that is concerned more about running the show his way vs worrying about getting as many as possible out of harms way.

 

[hickslawns]

On a fire scene the officer in charge calls the shots. This situation is a lot different. There is no active fire. The scene is many square miles. Not sure how that works. Maybe some of our resident fire fighters can chime in. Everything was chaos. If I am the chief, I'm using all available resources. That helicopter would have been a blessing.

 

["J"]

Months would be would be a stretch. Probably be a year from the looks of it.

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["J"]

 

[Clay Showalter]

Months would be would be a stretch. Probably be a year from the looks of it.

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I heard that NCDOT says October, 2025, per news outlets

 

["J"]

I heard that NCDOT says October, 2025, per news outlets

Yeah, that may even be a stretch.

 

[Clay Showalter]

I am trying to confirm, but reports are coming out that they will not release casualties, because of the large amount of loss of life

 

[triple_duece]

On a fire scene the officer in charge calls the shots. This situation is a lot different. There is no active fire. The scene is many square miles. Not sure how that works. Maybe some of our resident fire fighters can chime in. Everything was chaos. If I am the chief, I'm using all available resources. That helicopter would have been a blessing.

It’s much more complicated than that. I’m sure the chief in charge or unified command has authority to anyone that answers to him or other agencies in the operation. To be quick and to the point, once he became part of the rescue mission through his guys the UC has authority. Therefore the UC has the responsibility of the helo and personnel. Yes early in the event, there is self rescue, people helping people and whatnot. Just like we had the Cajun navy. CN although in good intentions can and will become a problem w the overall mission. We ran the CN out of our parish. Not that we didn’t need help but once they come in and start it can and will be a liability. First responders are trained and have coms w the overall mission to reduce deaths, injuries and casualties. Along with the responders being vetted and covered under the “umbrella”. You don’t know what these people are doing, could be anything from saving lives to looting. It can be that extreme or putting victims in harms way. Like I said, it’s complicated.

 

[hickslawns]

Understood. Massive difference between a structure fire and a natural disaster. Liability is a big word too. That word comes up and lawyers ears perk up. Lol

 

[giles]

We arrived this evening. From what I've seen so far, shit is fucked. No fuel, no beds or anything. We are sleeping in our trucks tonight. Hopefully some organization comes tomorrow and we get logistics figured out and a work plan. Right now it is a class A clusterfuck. Seems to be plenty of help around but we can't do anything without some rest and fuel.

 

[triple_duece]

We arrived this evening. From what I've seen so far, shit is fucked. No fuel, no beds or anything. We are sleeping in our trucks tonight. Hopefully some organization comes tomorrow and we get logistics figured out and a work plan. Right now it is a class A clusterfuck. Seems to be plenty of help around but we can't do anything without some rest and fuel.

Ground zero is always like that sometimes after a week. What did you expect first class accommodations? When being deployed you should be prepared to be self sufficient for a week and not be a burden to the area using resources. It’s a total different situation than one would think. Be thankful if there is any kind of accommodations more than what you brought.