did a little digging on my new found friend , lets just say i got played by one of the biggest bull shitters ever , the guy never shot pro 3d , hell he didnt even have any big bucks to his credit , the one thing he did say that wasnt a lie was that he shot for the hoyt company , so lets her it guys , lay your best ones on me , im still gonna continue with team uglykat , but im not gonna be so naive next time