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bowhunter1023

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Exactly. Its a LONG road from today to actually having your property encumbered by an interstate pipeline. Like I said, with it being FERC regulated, it is best to play ball and maximize the deal. No one can be a bigger dick than a multi billion company with the full on blessing of the federal government. Play nice in the sandbox!
 

Bigslam51

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Exactly. Its a LONG road from today to actually having your property encumbered by an interstate pipeline. Like I said, with it being FERC regulated, it is best to play ball and maximize the deal. No one can be a bigger dick than a multi billion company with the full on blessing of the federal government. Play nice in the sandbox!

So what happens if I don't sign this paper allowing them to survey? Will they just take me too court?
 
I was approached for a 60' pipeline ROW running approx. 1500' in length on my property in Carroll county about 18 months ago. I didn't play nice in the sandbox. I told the agent it wasn't going to happen on my property and my neighbor told him the same. He seemed to think money would sway my thinking. He was very mistaken and I told him point blank how I thought. Keep your money and I'll keep my beautiful maturing oaks swaying in the breeze. He did present me some fair proposals, but I flatly refused. He then became a little pushy. I finally told him when he brings me a check for $500,000 we will start to negotiate. That was the last I heard of him.The pipeline is now being laid about 1/3 mile from my property. I'm still dirt poor, but love my dirt and the oaks that thrive in it on my hillsides. Money isn't everything.
 

MK111

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I'm lucky as the pipeline easements are on the extreme corner of my property away from me. All 3 have went or going to go across one of the remaining building lots left in this area. First line is 25' form the property line, the 2nd one is 50' from the property line. I assume and demand the 3rd line will be 75' from the line.
This is on a 300' lot. I feel I've been paid well for the fact the pipelines are destroying the value of the building lot. The 3rd line should give full value of the lot and I still own it. A win-win deal for me.

Forgot to mention the lines goes across a open pasture field. It did take out a over grown fence line. Both times the temporary fence company put up such a poor cattle fence they paid me very well to put up a 2nd fence. Plus I just got paid because the grass they planted in 2013 didn't grow.
 
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Bigslam51

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I'd like to speak with someone in person and not on the phone. What if both neighbors agree too this and I don't? Eminent domain is what I'm thinking will happen.
 

MK111

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I'd like to speak with someone in person and not on the phone. What if both neighbors agree too this and I don't? Eminent domain is what I'm thinking will happen.

Just contact them and you will have someone on your doorstep ASAP. Like it was said "play nice in the sand".
It's just good business for them to low ball you on price. Be reasonable and they will treat you right. IMHO
Like it or not it's not going away. In this area a Attorney firm out of Columbus has contacted everyone alone the route asking to represent you. That helps in final closing.
 

Bigslam51

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Just contact them and you will have someone on your doorstep ASAP. Like it was said "play nice in the sand".
It's just good business for them to low ball you on price. Be reasonable and they will treat you right. IMHO
Like it or not it's not going away. In this area a Attorney firm out of Columbus has contacted everyone alone the route asking to represent you. That helps in final closing.

I was thinking that it would be a good idea to get a lawyer.
 

MK111

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I was thinking that it would be a good idea to get a lawyer.

IMHO the lawyer gets too much money. The lawyer firm that contacted us only gets 1/3 of anything above the last offer the pipeline offered. The original offer is 100% yours. That helped me in my last contract.
 

oakswamper

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We have one running on the back property line from one end to the other, they paid for every tree they cut down and said they would keep it clear. They did keep it clear for a few years, now it looks like this in the winter so you can imagine what it's like in the summer.. This was a few years ago, it's worse now.

But I agree it's better to work with them than fight it



 

bowhunter1023

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So what happens if I don't sign this paper allowing them to survey? Will they just take me too court?
No. You don't have to let them survey. However they'll do as they please if they need to go through your land. And for God's sake, don't hire an attorney. Its a waste of money and this isn't rocket science. Like I said, I'll help however I can when it comes to the contract and what not. If you don't want them to survey, then you can certainly tell them that. That's your call.
 

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If you do reach a deal with them before you close add in that you want 6 chickens, a watermelon, and a floppy eared rabbit.

Why? Shit I don't know. I just like messing with people. Why not.
 

Bigslam51

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If you do reach a deal with them before you close add in that you want 6 chickens, a watermelon, and a floppy eared rabbit.

Why? Shit I don't know. I just like messing with people. Why not.

Sounds like a good deal. You kind of confused me on the floppy eared rabbit, but I understand the chickens and watermelon, no roosters though, I hate roosters.
 

Bigslam51

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No. You don't have to let them survey. However they'll do as they please if they need to go through your land. And for God's sake, don't hire an attorney. Its a waste of money and this isn't rocket science. Like I said, I'll help however I can when it comes to the contract and what not. If you don't want them to survey, then you can certainly tell them that. That's your call.

Thanks Jesse. I know your involved in the industry, but what do you do?
 

Jackalope

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Sounds like a good deal. You kind of confused me on the floppy eared rabbit, but I understand the chickens and watermelon, no roosters though, I hate roosters.

Yeah. You don't want one of those pointy eared bastards. They have floppy eared breeds

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bowhunter1023

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Thanks Jesse. I know your involved in the industry, but what do you do?
I'm an Operational Landman. If we are tearing up dirt, I'm involved. From surface leases, access roads, well pads, electric, water, gas and oil lines, its my job to sign the contracts and work with the landowner all the way through the projects to make sure they are happy when we are done.
Ive seen a lot of good hunting on pipelines running through hardwood tracts.
No doubt about it. Deer love edge habitat and pipelines provide that. We tore up some amazing timber in northern WV two years ago when we laid lines through an 80' swath. Go back now and there is a stand of lush green clover and the landowners say it only helped the hunting. Losing a few trees is not the end all for the hunting. In many cases, it improves it. Plus you get a nice open, flat food plot out of it.
 

Bigslam51

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We'll be getting an attorney. I'm not letting them go through our 6.5 acres fugging shit all up and then end up with a piece of land that we can't even put a house on. Our land isn't all flat, there's only 2 places we can build, one spot is at the front and one is at the back of the property. Either way, I don't want to live anywhere near a 42" natural gas pipeline.