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Saw something today for the first time

Sgt Fury

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I’ve been hunting since I was 14 years old. I’m now 54, soon to be 55. In my 40 hunting seasons, I’ve never witnessed what I saw tonight. A young shed buck was dogging does...head down and harassing them. They didn’t want anything to do with him and after checking out most of the does, he walked over to a scrape and pissed in it. He then spent about a minute rubbing his face on the overhanging branch and licking it. With my binoculars I could see the bloody spots on his head where he had recently shed. I know that the increase in daylight signals the pituitary gland to decrease the testosterone in a bucks body...he then sheds his antlers and begins to grow new ones. I thought that once a buck has shed, that his testosterone level was low and he would lose interest in breeding. I learned something new today after seeing this behavior with my own eyes. Has anyone else ever witnessed a shed buck still interested in breeding?
 

BCamp

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I've never seen it but i remember reading something where Charles Alsheimer had seen bucks on his farm going nuts for does into the spring. If I remember correctly he theorized that it was caused by a doe that hadn't been bred and was still cycling into estrus. From that he thought that estrogen was a larger factor in the rut and bucks fighting than the testosterone.
 

Outdoorsfellar

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My cams in the past have shown does being harassed later on during the winter which I found to be surprising. At the time it was hard to believe that there were still some does that hadn't been bred & that they were still coming into estrus over & over. When I think about it now, I wonder if that's a sign of low buck to doe ratios, or just dumb luck.
 
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Mjp8689

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Ravenna
I saw this toward beginning of January. I’ve read many times how fawns come in cycle later in season based on when they reach certain body weight. Had very large group of does and fawns come blowing through 30 yards from my stand like they had been spooked. I knew my wind was good so I was dumbfounded. Especially when they stopped about 75 yards out, browsed around for a few min then blew outta there again. Two hours later I left my stand(close to noon). On walk out I had two deer run out in front of me on oil well road, thought I had jumped them until they crossed in front of me second time at 50 yards. Really nice buck I had never set eyes on chasing small fawn. He never even noticed me he was so set on her. They crossed one last time at thirty yards and she spotted me, she stopped to stomp at and he tried to mount her. Never had clear shot but it was quite a site to see. She took off into brush and he was head down hot on her trail. Not sure he ever even knew I was there. Later on figured that’s why the group of does had been acting so funny, I just must have never got eyes on him from stand.
 
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Mjp8689

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Ravenna
also just to add to that, I’ve seen random fresh scrapes off and on over last month. Trail cam vids and photos of bucks showing a lot of interest in fawns. Seems like each cold front sparks it up a bit in northeast Ohio. I just figured that I was crazy and there was no way this way really rutting action this late in season. Still kinda got me scratching my head over it, maybe the strange weather this year, idk.
 
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Sgt Fury

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I know they will breed later if a doe wasn’t bred earlier or if a young one comes into estrous for the first time...I was just surprised that a buck that had already shed his antlers was still trying to get some cooter.
 

giles

Cull buck specialist
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I know they will breed later if a doe wasn’t bred earlier or if a young one comes into estrous for the first time...I was just surprised that a buck that had already shed his antlers was still trying to get some cooter.
Dropping antlers could come from an injury, not loss of testosterone. So I kinda looked past that.
 

lung buster

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Seen 7 bucks still packing both sides behind my work this afternoon. The snow melted from the rain and they were munching down!
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