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brock ratcliff

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Thinking back on that article I might of interpreted wrong... Maybe those 5 states listed were actual residents from those states that purchased Ohio tags... Not non-resident sales for those states... If so... My bad... Sorry bout that... Maybe someone can find out the actual number of sales in Ohio...
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xbowguy

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Yup.... Tops on the list would be to get rid of all the non-resident hunters.... They are killing YOUR DEER... So just eliminate non-resident license sales... PERIOD... 40,000 deer tags went to non-resident ??? I DOUBT IT !!!! According to this article originating from ODNR.... There were 415,710 deer tags sold in Ohio.... 5 states with the most non resident license sales were listed.... Pennsylvania had the most with 8808 and the state with the least amount sold had 3699.... Therefore since Ohio wasn't even in the top five, there must of been less than 3699 Ohio deer tags sold to non-residents.... WOW THATS A FAR CRY FROM 40,000.....


So wanna improve deer hunting???
1... Eliminate all baiting...
2... Eliminate cross guns for all... Make them legal for people with handicaps ( doctors note needed ) and seniors 65 and older...
3... Shoot a button buck and you gotta use your buck tag on it....
4... Reciprocal license fees would be a good thing....
5... Increasing the amount of game wardens would be good...
6... Have antler restrictions ( 3 points to a side )
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Here is 20,000 license in 5 states alone. That doesn't include total tags purchased.
 
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jagermeister

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Yes, I know they exist but they truly are small scale. Our wildlife and wild lands need grand scale efforts and change in this state.

What is the total acreage enrolled in these programs compared to the total of eligible acreage available within the state? I’m curious what that percentage looks like.

Maybe a better way to flesh out my idea is to double down on the marketing dollars and efforts to promote awareness of these programs to the general public, then quadruple the follow up efforts to enroll more acreage across the state.
The OLHAP program now has roughly 30,700 acres in 48 different counties enrolled across the state. I personally don’t view that as small scale, especially considering the program has only been in place since 2021. In comparison, the state of Iowa’s IHAP program has been in place since 2011, and they only have a few thousand more acres enrolled than Ohio, based on my brief Google search.
 
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Bigcountry40

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And anyone saying they want to bring back the in-person deer and turkey check-ins… I just can’t wrap my head around why you’d want that. Please don’t change this. The convenience of checking-in a deer instantly from my phone, while in the field, is waaaaayyyy better than driving 15 minutes into town just so I can high-five some locals gathered around a truck.
I can't believe you don't wanna fist bump random strangers at Castalia Market and hear how they missed a buck "just like that" 3 years ago and never saw it again. Also, half those people are probably my relatives!
 

Dannmann801

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I like the idea of being able to shoot raccoons anytime. They're varmints.
I like the idea of reciprocal pricing for non-resident tags. I'm not against non-resident hunters, I just like the fairness of it.
I strongly disagree with the idea of banning crossbows. Using the xbow was a perfect way to introduce me to archery hunting; when I started hunting I had zero interest in learning how to shoot a compound. I think it can be used as a gateway drug to allow hunters to participate in archery (especially youth).
Personally, I think online check-in is the cat's ass, and do not want to see it go away. On that note, I think the HuntFishOH app is great - buy licenses, buy tags, check game......sheeeeeit that thing is TITS.

Baiting issue has been argued ad-nauseum, and I can see both sides. All I can say to those who want to ban it - be careful what you wish for.

Greg's @switchhitter post about his acre made me wanna share this, for what it's worth....
My little 5 acre spot in Adams county used to be kept mowed all the way up to the treeline of the woods.
The property line is in blue
3 or 4 years ago we quit mowing down to the back of the barn.
Little cedar trees, briars, brush, milkweed, and all kinda weeds have grown up in the yellow area.
That yellow area is now overrun with deer trails, small game trails, rubs like crazy, bedding spots, deer shit everywhere, and the traffic thru the rest of my woods has increased dramatically. I haven't seen any gamebirds, but I haven't been looking either. but my point is, just an acre or two left to grow is going crazy. I wonder what could be done to encourage that across the state on a larger scale?


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ThatBuckeyeGuy

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I like the idea of being able to shoot raccoons anytime. They're varmints.
I like the idea of reciprocal pricing for non-resident tags. I'm not against non-resident hunters, I just like the fairness of it.
I strongly disagree with the idea of banning crossbows. Using the xbow was a perfect way to introduce me to archery hunting; when I started hunting I had zero interest in learning how to shoot a compound. I think it can be used as a gateway drug to allow hunters to participate in archery (especially youth).
Personally, I think online check-in is the cat's ass, and do not want to see it go away. On that note, I think the HuntFishOH app is great - buy licenses, buy tags, check game......sheeeeeit that thing is TITS.

Baiting issue has been argued ad-nauseum, and I can see both sides. All I can say to those who want to ban it - be careful what you wish for.

Greg's @switchhitter post about his acre made me wanna share this, for what it's worth....
My little 5 acre spot in Adams county used to be kept mowed all the way up to the treeline of the woods.
The property line is in blue
3 or 4 years ago we quit mowing down to the back of the barn.
Little cedar trees, briars, brush, milkweed, and all kinda weeds have grown up in the yellow area.
That yellow area is now overrun with deer trails, small game trails, rubs like crazy, bedding spots, deer shit everywhere, and the traffic thru the rest of my woods has increased dramatically. I haven't seen any gamebirds, but I haven't been looking either. but my point is, just an acre or two left to grow is going crazy. I wonder what could be done to encourage that across the state on a larger scale?


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I'm going to have to back you on the crossbow mainly because im sick and tired of seeing the chest bumping every year between hunters. I've been shooting compound since I was 13. I've mainly used crossbows the last few years. Are they convenient? hell yes they are. Are they accurate? Yes they are . Can they get anyone in the woods easier than a compound ? Yes. Do inexperienced hunters make bad shots with them because of the shit they see online? Yes.

But here's where I get irritated. The same should be said for compound/long bow hunters. It's the same way period.. I'd rather a new hunter run off with a crossbow than a compound not being proficient with it but they do it every year. If crossbows are banned than every hunter should have to prove in person they can hit vitals at 30 yards 9 out of 10 times with their compound/long bow before being granted a tag. Fair is fair .

Were all on the same team no need for bashing . All the deer I've killed with my crossbow i could've killed just as easy with my compound if not easier. It's a chest banging manhood thing and it ends at that. I've seen way worst shots from a compound than a crossbow maybe it's area specific but I doubt it. Also I'm not saying the people on this site but the majority of compound hunters that want crossbows banned are the same hunters using the top of the line lit and range finding sights , drop away rests , limb saving this , lit knock that , 90 percent let off , ect etc but yet they tote around their straight wall rifle during gun season not batting an eye claiming everyone should be using a flintlock muzzleloader claiming manhood..

There's always going to be bad apples in hunters. That holds true for every single hobby/sport out there . Someone's always "not" doing it the right way or the "manly" way. Face it guys were all in it for love of the sport and technology is going to keep pushing forward. Don't tell me you don't appreciate the technology in other parts of your life if you do then let's be honest your lieing out of your teeth.

Rant over lol . Lots of good points brought up so far guys. I agree on alot of them
 

Bighoun52

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Outside looking in. Nonresident land owner. A dmap program would benefit the private land owners greatly. Coon hunting trapping 24/7. And some kind of program to incentives more butchers. Actually just talked to a pa game Commision board member about the same thing.
 
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"J"

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giles

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Why the increase on public land does? I will agree about the cheaper tag, but not taking more. If there is a wildlife area or two that has a significant increase, wouldn't it make sense to make those a different regualation? Not all of them.
 

"J"

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Why the increase on public land does? I will agree about the cheaper tag, but not taking more. If there is a wildlife area or two that has a significant increase, wouldn't it make sense to make those a different regualation? Not all of them.
They like chainsaws, not scalpels…..
 

Fletch

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Looks like the antlerless numbers are gonna have a significant increase….. And technically, If it gets adopted, I can buy my tags in august and beat the increase?
There ya go.... Just another non-resident beating the system to save money... :ROFLMAO:

Increase the number of doe tags on public land ??? If my memory is correct isn't there a deer shortage on public land... How many deer were seen or killed during the annual muzzy hunt at Strouds???

Raising of non-resident deer license and tags... That's ok with me... I pay roughly $800.00 for a gun and archery tag in Illinois... Therefore if I had a place to hunt in Ohio, what's another couple hundred dollars...

As for banning baiting??? That's never gonna happen... It's become big business... Just look how much corn Walmart sells yearly...
 

"J"

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Good, they can use chainsaws to make some money off the lumber. Then take that money and put it back into those same lands for habitat restore and invasive species removal.
Or maybe, just unass some of that rainy day fund money….. You know, the one that got 3.5 billion dollars in it…..
 
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giles

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Or maybe, just unass some of that rainy day fund money….. You know, the one that got 3.5 billion dollars in it…..
I'd have to go back and read it again, but i think it also basically told us they didn't use 1.2 million last year. They are also leaning forward for increases that haven't happened. Don't even know IF it'll happen. I am not disagreeing that we needed to raise prices to match others, but I disagree with the scare tactics of how the article was written. Had a Karen ring to it.
 
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RedCloud

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No matter what we want it'll be almost impossible to implement UNLESS you do it on a local level. Painting with a wide brush is going to screw people over one way or another. Living in town I'm told I can only cover X% of my property with structure such as house, garage, shed, basically anything that's not grass. I don't know if this is the same in the county or township saying you can only use a % of property for tillable acreage. Up here where I'm at and further north we have way more open fields than wood lots or wild grassy areas. Habitat loss has been a big problem with the expansion of subdivisions and cities annexing properties from the township or county so that would need addressed as well. A lot of the old family farms I knew as a kid have been sold off in smaller 1-5 acre lots.

#1) Habitat reclamation on a bigger scale. Ohio has a good program but it seems to be in pockets of the state and not wide spread.
#2) More boots on the ground GW's
#3) localized regulations per zones
 

Floki

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I would do away with the gang of 8 that vote in laws. There would be 88 people 1 person for each county elected non paid.

That person would take reports on the situation of each county maybe hold a meeting or two each year .
Have an open email/phone line to hear from sportsman that hunt the county.

Then make a decision as what limits should be for said county.

The eight people that make the rules and vote have no clue what’s going on in counties that they don’t live in.

🤷‍♂️ I could go on and on about this. 🤣 anyhow that’s my short opinion.

In the end if person that is elected in each county fails to listen to constituents he can be voted out following term . Nobody knows more than sportsman that hunt their county’s.
 
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