The Future of Hunting in Ohio

[giles]

One thing that everyone seems to agree on is to get rid of corn piles. Whether you are upset because someone else is pulling "your deer" or you actually give a shit about the health of it, we all agree that it is bad. So if we are to band together to try and make a change, why don't we focus on that. I also realize that banning it would be extremely hard to regulate. As this feeder is for squirrels and this one is for birds. So I suggest a limit of some sort. 2 gallons? 5 pounds? I don't know how much would be a good amount, that is for the professionals to decide.

Next, why don't we push for mandatory bow hunters education. We could incorporate what to do after the shot in this class. I think with these two things we could greatly increase the odds of successful hunters. This would help recruitment but lower hunting pressure. How? Because a well place shot gets a hunter in and out of the woods. Most even for a season as the records show most hunters only kill one deer. By not taking the opportunity from these hunters by banning anything, we increase the odds of success by education.

If the state wants to focus on antler growth because of the money generated, I suggest they do this for public access land. Not privately owned land. I don't think it is right to force a property owner to grow giant bucks. I'm sure we all remember our first buck and it had nothing to do with inches. It is likely the most prized buck of a person's life. It doesn't matter if it happens at 13 or 50, that first buck is always something special. I would hate to take that away from anyone because of an antler restriction or any other kind of restriction/ban on private land as this is where it often happens.

These are my thoughts after a few nights of sleeping on it and many talks with members and nonmembers over that time.

 

[Tipmoose]

Im a huge fan of hunting these metro parks that are springing up everywhere. There's a huge one off 104 here in GC. I imagine how I would hunt it every time I go over there. Would be best if they would close the park for a week to keep the hunter/public interactions to a minimum. As I've said before, I just want to fill the freezer. I don't care where the deer comes from or what kind of antlers it has.

 

[Hedgelj]

Im a huge fan of hunting these metro parks that are springing up everywhere. There's a huge one off 104 here in GC. I imagine how I would hunt it every time I go over there. Would be best if they would close the park for a week to keep the hunter/public interactions to a minimum. As I've said before, I just want to fill the freezer. I don't care where the deer comes from or what kind of antlers it has.

Precisely, let the biologists tell us what needs taken and then lottery for those options. Doe only, buck only tags.

 

[Hedgelj]

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[Creamer]

I hope to all things holy it doesn't come down to voting like the Colorado reintroduction of wolves. Ballot box biology doesn't seem like the way to go. I'd rather let the trained scientific experts make calls on our wildlife.

 

[Clay Showalter]

I hope to all things holy it doesn't come down to voting like the Colorado reintroduction of wolves. Ballot box biology doesn't seem like the way to go. I'd rather let the trained scientific experts make calls on our wildlife.

Well we have hybrid wolves reintroduced to eastern NC under the advisement of "experts" and all it has done is destroy the turkey, rabbit, bird population

 

[Tipmoose]

Well we have hybrid wolves reintroduced to eastern NC under the advisement of "experts" and all it has done is destroy the turkey, rabbit, bird population

You can thank the feds and anti hunting groups for that boondoggle.

Noone seems to care that the "wolves" themselves are dying at an alarming rate. And the ones that survive are immediately crossbreeding with coyotes to produce a mixed species offspring that don't have much in common with a true wolf.

 

[giles]

The government always finds a way.

 

[finelyshedded]

The government always finds a way to fugg things up.

Fixed it for you buddy!

 

[Jamie]

I hope to all things holy it doesn't come down to voting like the Colorado reintroduction of wolves. Ballot box biology doesn't seem like the way to go. I'd rather let the trained scientific experts make calls on our wildlife.

Fat chance of that today. Everything is political in our society today and nothing is sacred to politicians and bureaucrats. Biologists make recommendations that are very quickly sent to the back of the bus when enough money is at stake.

 

["J"]

You can thank the feds and anti hunting groups for that boondoggle.

Noone seems to care that the "wolves" themselves are dying at an alarming rate. And the ones that survive are immediately crossbreeding with coyotes to produce a mixed species offspring that don't have much in common with a true wolf.

Hope too never see a thread like that here……

 

[Tipmoose]

Hope too never see a thread like that here……

Funny you should mention that... The same idiots driving the woof issue in NC are doing the same thing with the gray wolf. Looks like they are targeting the NE this time.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...e-developments-take-place-locally/ar-AA1lQCYD

 

["J"]

Funny you should mention that... The same idiots driving the woof issue in NC are doing the same thing with the gray wolf. Looks like they are targeting the NE this time.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...e-developments-take-place-locally/ar-AA1lQCYD

Just what they need…..

 

[danielpokey]

If you want to improve the hunting in Ohio in my opinion you have to limit non residents ability to get buck tags. It would eliminate a bunch of leasing if non residents were only able to harvest a buck from gun season till the end of bow season. All top quality states limits non residents either through limited tags or through a drawing. In my opinion there are too many outfitters focusing on leasing land to profit off of the unlimited non residents,if you could stop the ability for them hunting early bow season if could reduce leasing

I completely disagree on the non-resident restrictions. I'm a native Ohioan but been non-resident for more than 25 years. I am also an Ohio landowner. Why should my primary residency in another state limit my hunting opportunities on land I own in Ohio? I pay property taxes like every other landowner, and pay multiple times over for non-resident hunting license.

 

[Jackalope]

I completely disagree on the non-resident restrictions. I'm a native Ohioan but been non-resident for more than 25 years. I am also an Ohio landowner. Why should my primary residency in another state limit my hunting opportunities on land I own in Ohio? I pay property taxes like every other landowner, and pay multiple times over for non-resident hunting license.

I don't disagree with you one bit. But i'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment. Because while you might own the land, you don't own the deer, they belong to the atate and the people.of the state. That's the excuse arizona uses to limit elk tags on federal public land to only 10% of the available tags for non-residents, while residents get 90% of the tag pool. I think it's BS personally.

 

[5Cent]

I don't disagree with you one bit. But i'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment. Because while you might own the land, you don't own the deer, they belong to the atate and the people.of the state. That's the excuse arizona uses to limit elk tags on federal public land to only 10% of the available tags for non-residents, while residents get 90% of the tag pool. I think it's BS personally.

Then move to and live in the state. I'm on the fence with Phil on this one. It's a privilege to be able to hunt outside of the state or reservation you live in, gotta pay to play, or have a voice.

 

[danielpokey]

Nobody is coming to Ohio to just hunt does.

I do - I'm an Ohio landowner but have lived out of state for more than 25 years. I go for the family and friends experience, and I shoot whatever gives enough meat to make it worth the effort. I shot a 150 lb doe on public land a few years ago and that was totally satisfying to me! Fun and delicious!

 

[danielpokey]

I don't disagree with you one bit. But i'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment. Because while you might own the land, you don't own the deer, they belong to the atate and the people.of the state. That's the excuse arizona uses to limit elk tags on federal public land to only 10% of the available tags for non-residents, while residents get 90% of the tag pool. I think it's BS personally.

True that nobody owns the deer until it's killed and tagged legally, but the point of opportunity should not be limited to residency. Animals don't know what state they are in.

 

[ThatBuckeyeGuy]

True that nobody owns the deer until it's killed and tagged legally, but the point of opportunity should not be limited to residency. Animals don't know what state they are in.

I'm sure glad this is posted on this forum and not archery talk or the like

 

[giles]

True that nobody owns the deer until it's killed and tagged legally, but the point of opportunity should not be limited to residency. Animals don't know what state they are in.

Sweet! The next one I kill this year is going to identify as WV buck.