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So the limitation is less about whether it'll pull it and more about what's left to put in the truck in terms of cargo?

No the limitation will be the driving experience. You will meet the legal numbers, the CC will dictate mostly how she handles. You can tweak certain things to make it work if it does not hit the "feel good" towing experience.
 

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GVWR on truck = 7,200#

Base Curb Weight = 5,640#

Full Tank = 167#

Family of 4 = 450#

Leaves around 1K #s for the truck. My only intention on truck payload was generator, bikes, wood, and coolers, which could climb to 1K fairly quick I suppose.

You nailed it, except for adding in the tongue weight, which at the dry weight they have listed of 6210 is 705lbs or 11%. You have roughly 300lba for the bed.
 
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Yeah,, and thats dry weight....thats why I mentioned earlier about your tongue weight around 900-1klbs when loaded with your gear in the camper.

Again, you can do it, ppl do it everyday and I would do it if only going 5-6x's a year close by. But, kids and camping supplies dictate more than a few hundred lbs in the truck bed. That's just firewood and coolers.

That GVWR seems low, though today's 1/2 tons 7700-8000lbs.
 

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Nickel hit it on the head. The truck will do it but not comfortable for any long distance trips. I’ve done it in the past because it’s what we had worked fine for in state but sucked on the long haul. Just as he said, you see this going down the road every day. Campgrounds are full of overloaded truck and trailer combos. You will have an easy 1k of shit stuffed in that camper at all times and not realizing it.
 

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You can adjust your tongue weight by where you load items in the trailer (in front of or behind trailer tires). Not sure why you would want 1k on your tongue.

No one wants 1k in TW, but at full gross on trailer at 13%, he's at 975lb. Dry weights dont usually include propane tanks and batteries either. Remember that hitch head is 50-75lbs depending on design.

With this trailer design, only the black tank is most likely behind the axle and the h20 somewhere near the axles. She is nose heavy off the start given their distance back from the tongue.

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He asked for insights, these are my insights. You can tow it and you can do it safely but as a good friend of mine, I won't let him do it without atleast understanding it completely. When you throw in a family, nothing else matters than safely getting to your destination. In close 2nd comes getting there comfortably.

That truck gross is low.....is this the yota?
 
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I guess my point was he could load heavy stuff (like a generator) in the back of the camper to reduce tongue and GVWR. He’s not overloaded unless he exceeds towing or GVWR.
 
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I guess my point was he could load heavy stuff (like a generator) in the back of the camper to reduce tongue and GVWR. He’s not overloaded unless he exceeds towing or GVWR.

Yep, except the design doesn't allow for it unless he puts in in the bathtub or on a bunk. This layout by design is just plain heavy, but fits the bill perfectly for a family of 4+ without going to a 33' rear BH room.

It's also a lever, so 1lb on rear bumper doesn't = 1lb TW reduction.....more like 1/3 given axle distances to both front and rear.
 

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Buy the Yota take a couple trips to see how she does. Add some bags if you then decide to stay in a 1/2 ton or decide if you want more CC.

Hell, you're bound to bank an extra $2500 selling a used yoga, right J🤣
Personally, I’d stay away from ANY 1/2 ton in this situation.... But yes the depreciation is probably one of the least of all the 1/2 ton trucks...
 
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It's a hard pill to swallow when numbers get crunched. Tough spot between getting the floorplan you want for the price you want but staring down the barrel of a new truck too. Nothing wrong with either choice. If he agrees, I'd ask him to hook up and hit the scales with the current truck.

Personally, no way no how in the yota for me. I'd think about a '17 plus in a domestic 1/2 ton with towing provisions, but always find myself with a 3/4.

Getting your unhitched and hitched up weights would be recommended if wanting to stay with a 1/2 ton.
 

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Personally, I wouldn't want a crew max for camping. The bed size alone would drive me crazy.

Bumping up to a 3/4 ton you gain bed size options of 6.5-8'. Fuel consumption comparison from a 5.7 Tundra and a top three 3/4 gaser aren't far apart.

Adam pretty much nailed everything else. In the end, I wouldn't consider a half ton for me. I did this road...thats how my wife ended up with a HD half. That is now a $60,000 grocery getter. I should've bought her a damn minivan and myself a truck.
 
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It's a hard pill to swallow when numbers get crunched. Tough spot between getting the floorplan you want for the price you want but staring down the barrel of a new truck too. Nothing wrong with either choice. If he agrees, I'd ask him to hook up and hit the scales with the current truck.

Personally, no way no how in the yota for me. I'd think about a '17 plus in a domestic 1/2 ton with towing provisions, but always find myself with a 3/4.

Getting your unhitched and hitched up weights would be recommended if wanting to stay with a 1/2 ton.
What’s the #’s on one of those heavy half Government Motors truck?
 

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What’s the #’s on one of those heavy half Government Motors truck?

401hp/464ft lbs....but has higher numbers than my old '14 duramax. Technology and marketing have kept them increasing at a stupid clip the last few years.

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A pin wt of 2500lbs is nuts if you ask me for a SB.
 

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Looks like a doable option. There’s a NE Ohio dealer Who was advertising having the largest selection in Ohio. Might be someone too touch base with.