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giles said:
THIS! I don’t go on storm work because of how many people hook directly into the grid. That’s how people in my line of work die.
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Joe six packnisnt going to backfeed too much of the disto line without popping the breaker on the genny due to so much pull from surrounding residents. Now if it's an isolated circuit and the fault is close he can sustain the load and that can get dangerous for you guys.

Providing the rules are followed storm repair is dang safe from backfeed though. As you know the problem is guys start running on little sleep and high demand and start to cut corners with safety. If they have their V-Watch alarms on, glove up, test before touch, and personal ground the fuck out of the line on both ends it's pretty foolproof safe. You can't stop the idiot homeowners with suicide lines, but you can sure negate them and be safe out there.
 
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Jackalope said:
Joe six packnisnt going to backfeed too much of the disto line without popping the breaker on the genny due to so much pull from surrounding residents. Now if it's an isolated circuit and the fault is close he can sustain the load and that can get dangerous for you guys.

Providing the rules are followed storm repair is dang safe from backfeed though. As you know the problem is guys start running on little sleep and high demand and start to cut corners with safety. If they have their V-Watch alarms on, glove up, test before touch, and personal ground the fuck out of the line on both ends it's pretty foolproof safe. You can't stop the idiot homeowners with suicide lines, but you can sure negate them and be safe out there.
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Correct, you should be boxed in with grounds at all times. Lots of different variables happen and it’s something I just prefer to stay away from. I feel I’ve done my service to the American people and I’m over it. I don’t want to see someone get fried or get fried.

Either way, I feel generators need to protect the people trying to help you. The product mike presented does that.
 
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giles said:
Correct, you should be boxed in with grounds at all times. Lots of different variables happen and it’s something I just prefer to stay away from. I feel I’ve done my service to the American people and I’m over it. I don’t want to see someone get fried or get fried.

Either way, I feel generators need to protect the people trying to help you. The product mike presented does that.
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This one doesn’t provide protection? I feel it does from what I’ve read. Correct me if I’m wrong...
 
"J" said:
This one doesn’t provide protection? I feel it does from what I’ve read. Correct me if I’m wrong...
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I can’t answer that. I didn’t read all the info. I can tell you that power will find the least resistance in any open loop. I’ll read more on it when I get chance, might be a few days.
 
giles said:
Correct, you should be boxed in with grounds at all times. Lots of different variables happen and it’s something I just prefer to stay away from. I feel I’ve done my service to the American people and I’m over it. I don’t want to see someone get fried or get fried.

Either way, I feel generators need to protect the people trying to help you. The product mike presented does that.
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Shitty situation for sure. When I was at AEP i was a desk jocky IT guy. But when you work for a power company you're all power company men. I had to take annual training on line components and safety. Then was "volunteered" for storm duty. Lucky for me that's the year we had that derecho wind. There i was zooming around in a company truck with a V-watch and hazard tape marking downed lines and calling back components to dispatch for the crews. Poles, transformers, cut outs, insulators, line length etc so the trucks could show up with what they needed on-hand. The first few days we're fine. On day three people started getting shitty. Great fun being the first AEP truck a person has seen in 3 days and having to explain that no I am not the guy that's going to fix it, and no i can't tell you when that will actually happen. Only had to turn and bunny hop back once and that was enough for me. Fuck you where's my desk. 😅
 
Jackalope said:
Shitty situation for sure. When I was at AEP i was a desk jocky IT guy. But when you work for a power company you're all power company men. I had to take annual training on line components and safety. Then was "volunteered" for storm duty. Lucky for me that's the year we had that derecho wind. There i was zooming around in a company truck with a V-watch and hazard tape marking downed lines and calling back components to dispatch for the crews. Poles, transformers, cut outs, insulators, line length etc so the trucks could show up with what they needed on-hand. The first few days we're fine. On day three people started getting shitty. Great fun being the first AEP truck a person has seen in 3 days and having to explain that no I am not the guy that's going to fix it, and no i can't tell you when that will actually happen. Only had to turn and bunny hop back once and that was enough for me. Fuck you where's my desk. 😅
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I prefer the shuffle method.
 
From an inspection:
Back fed 40 amp breaker with no interlock protection and undersized wires to the generator plug. The occupant that did this said he took electrical in vocational school. Off topic, this was one of the best inspections for electrical hacks that I have seen yet.

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