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trash pump vs transfer pump

Hedgelj

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Looking to buy one, trying to move a fluid similar to honey (12lbs pet gallon approx). Don't need it to be super fast just effective for 5-10 gallons at a time.

suggestions?
 

giles

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? I'm confused
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Hedgelj

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Depends on the media, not just viscosity. What are the size of the particles, how dirty or how clean? Food safe?
no real particles
basically it's hfcs with additional stuff

it's for my bees but many commercial guys are running 3" harbor freight trash pumps but that's complete overkill for my needs to fill aa 5 gallon bucket in a minute
 

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You mention flow rate but what about total volume? A 2-3” trash pump is overkill for 5-10 total gallons, maybe… but an 18V transfer pump like the Milwaukee may not cut it for 200-300 gallons total.

All in all, a trash pump is gonna give you ability to pump “dirty” liquid. A typical transfer pump isn’t made for handling solids. Slight difference in impeller and volute design.
 
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Hedgelj

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You mention flow rate but what about total volume? A 2-3” trash pump is overkill for 5-10 total gallons, maybe… but an 18V transfer pump like the Milwaukee may not cut it for 200-300 gallons total.

All in all, a trash pump is gonna give you ability to pump “dirty” liquid. A typical transfer pump isn’t made for handling solids. Slight difference in impeller and volute design.
I have 200ish gallons of a liquid sugar substitute for my bees. Need a way to get it out of the 55gallon barrels it's in and into 5 gallon buckets as needed. 5-15 gallon at a time to feed my bees. The big guys are using 55 gallons a day because they are feeding hundreds of hives.
 

5Cent

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I've got enough challenges moving the barrels at 660ish lbs each, elevating isn't an option
You're talking 3' max to get a 5gal bucket under it (guessing here), couple 4x4 bunks and a ramp gets ya there, as long as you have space for it horizontally. Can't the machine help roll or lift a few ft? How about a pulley setup/snatch block. You're gonna want to invert for full empty anyways, nothing a couple stacked 2x4s or wedges under the rear can't help with.
 
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There are barrel clamps available that could be used with a chain fall or snatchblock or with a tractor. Most are less than $50. FYI. Just another option.
 
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Hedgelj

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You're talking 3' max to get a 5gal bucket under it (guessing here), couple 4x4 bunks and a ramp gets ya there, as long as you have space for it horizontally. Can't the machine help roll or lift a few ft? How about a pulley setup/snatch block. You're gonna want to invert for full empty anyways, nothing a couple stacked 2x4s or wedges under the rear can't help with.

If it’s in a barrel can you use compressed air? 5-10 psi in one bung and a dip tube in the other bung? Maybe even a bicycle pump to be safe?

There are barrel clamps available that could be used with a chain fall or snatchblock or with a tractor. Most are less than $50. FYI. Just another option.
They are plastic food safe barrels.... concerns?
 

finelyshedded

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I’m thinking if you could figure out a way to get the barrel off the ground(farm equipment, straps and hoist) high enough to just use gravity and a shut off valve you could do a better job getting most if not nearly all the liquid out.
Our dad was an accomplished beekeeper taking care of as many of 125 hives at one time. I remember all the jars of sugar water he sat out to feed his bees. Times I’m sure have changed and they probably use other stuff now.
FYI, we still have a lot of old brood chambers, supers and other supplies you can have. Not sure what kind of shape they’re in but they are stacked up in our/his barn on the farm. Next time I’m down I’ll take some pics of what’s there to see if you’re interested. They are yours FREE and clear if you want any of it. I know most are filled with frames but they’re not in the best of shape either. Our farm is about 30-40 minutes from Strouds.
 
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