when i started bow hunting 36 years ago i, we, did not have the vast ways of gaining knolledge we have today . all we had was books about howard hill , fred bear , ben pearson and so on . these guys would shoot at anything . if you seen it and wanted to kill it , you shot an arrow at it . my days were spent roving through the woods and pasture fields shooting at birds for practice . then when fall came i was shooting to fill the freezer. if it moved it died . i had killed many birds while practacing with my 60 lb kodiac at 50 yards and under . my longest shot that i have connected with on a whitetail was 83 steps. he died in a dead run after running about 50 yards . useing a 2219 full length and a bear b.h. with bleeders