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brock ratcliff

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There are more hens than toms, without question. We kill very few hens. Back in the good old days (80s), I remember a gobbler gobbling on every high spot in Vinton Co. Some speculate that we've "shot the gobble" out of our flocks (Mrex). However, I think what has actually made the difference is that we are now permitted to shoot two gobblers. In the 80s, we were only permitted one. Not only are there fewer left to hunt in areas, there is less competition for the hens. They aren't going to gobble all morning when they are the only tom available to service hens.
A few years ago I hunted a huge farm that receives nearly no hunting pressure. I killed my bird @ 700, and there were two racing to get to me. I stayed in the woods until 1100 that day and saw 11 longbeards! I've never heard more gobbling in my life!
For some perspective, I read through the" turkey chronicles" of the last two seasons here on TOO. Do yourself a favor and read them. To me it proves Ohio turkey hunting is a hit or miss proposition. They are just not going to gobble well every day. They are still killable, they just aren't going to make it as fun as it can be every time.
 
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Diablo54

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It's been a strange season here. Not the normal gobbling and searching. I'm almost to the conclusion we have too many turkeys that the Toms don't have to search much for hens. I'm thinking the Toms roost with the hens and fly down together and no real need to search for other hens.
Thoughts?

This is normal stuff. It's the way they have always done it. Get close and kill him on fly down. Or piss off his hens and call them in he will be in tow. Or wait till about 10 when they have left him and he's ready for a new hen.
 

Boarhead

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Right on the money Brock the 80s and early 90s were a great time to hunt birds I remember killing my first longbeard in 84 in Vinton Co at 6:30 and just sat on the ridge and listened to birds gobble till 10:30 am. Heard 26 birds that morning just amazing but noticed the decline a few years after they went to 2 birds and it has never been the same since. Yes there are still some great days but just not every day like it used to be and very little gobbling late mornings.
 

teej89

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I believe in the mid 90s right after the sasquatch was introduced to ohio the bird population plummeted
 

brock ratcliff

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The overall population is higher than its ever been, at least in my lifetime. My grandfathers farm and surrounding area of Vinton Co had a much larger population in the 80's than it does now. Everyone that wanted to try turkey hunting was there during season. It wasn't hard to find turkeys at all, however there were 5 guys trying to get to the bird before you did. I can't count the number of times I was cut off by another hunter, or how many times I've had turkeys shot that I was working. It was more than frustrating, it was downright dangerous. The thought of being able to kill a turkey in flat farmland back then was absurd. Today, every county in the state has birds. The hunting pressure is NOTHING like it once was. I've been out 3 days, killed two turkeys, and haven't seen another hunter. Today when I get one to gobble, chances are good he's going to die. Back in the day, I spent more time looking for approaching hunters than I did approaching turkeys. Its different now, but better.
 

Bigslam51

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Found 10 turkey eggs out at our land after the hen flew off and scared the shit out of me. So she was bred 10 days ago.
 

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Carpn

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Found 10 turkey eggs out at our land after the hen flew off and scared the shit out of me. So she was bred 10 days ago.

Odds are she's been bred daily for the last few weeks . While they only need to breed once they'll continue breeding till they get their whole clutch laid and start sitting the nest . Cool find . The hunting will continue to get better as more hens start actually incubating their clutch .
 

Bigslam51

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Odds are she's been bred daily for the last few weeks . While they only need to breed once they'll continue breeding till they get their whole clutch laid and start sitting the nest . Cool find . The hunting will continue to get better as more hens start actually incubating their clutch .

Thanks for the info! I'm pretty new TOO turkey hunting. I might put my trail camera by this nest so I can get some cool pics! How badass would it be to get an egg hatching on video?! Am I correct on her being bred 10 days ago since there's 10 eggs?
 
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Bigslam51

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I just read that a hen may not return too the nest after being spooked off of it, and if she does not return, she will re nest somewhere else. I hope she returns, I plan on taking the long way around to my turk setup if I decide to hunt there.
 
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